School Assignment: Which 4 plants are this

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  1. Burrid

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    Hello, I've been busy determining trees and bushes for a couple of days and weeks. I've done a whole bunch already, but I haven't found the right species or name with 5 plants. I've scanned 4 of them, the 5th is a blackberry or a red raspberry, I just dont know the difference between the two.

    http://i39.tinypic.com/157ek36.jpg
    http://i42.tinypic.com/2hxwuvm.jpg
    http://i44.tinypic.com/e7gd1g.jpg
    http://i44.tinypic.com/14d36np.jpg (it's some kind of willow, but I can't find which)

    Any help is appreciated.

    Edit: this is an assignment for my course botany. I'm studying geology.
     
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  2. Michael F

    Michael F Paragon of Plants Forums Moderator 10 Years

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    #1 is a species of Salix.
    #2 ?
    #3 is a species of Tilia.
    #4 not sure, but it is not a willow - willows have alternate leaves, not opposite (with the exception of Salix purpurea, which has different size and shape leaves)
     
  3. Eric La Fountaine

    Eric La Fountaine Contributor Forums Moderator 10 Years

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    You did not show the picture for the fifth and I doubt your specimens have fruit, but that's the basic way to tell blackberries from raspberries. Explained here:
    http://www.uga.edu/fruit/rubus.html
     
  4. Burrid

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    Thanks a lot, I've been able to find the 3rd plant, it's a Tilia cordata
    The others may follow as well.

    This is the picture of my blackberry or raspberry:
    http://i44.tinypic.com/szd6jn.jpg

    The problem was that there weren't any fruits on it, so I had to identify it without them.
    The left leaf is showing the bottom.
     
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    Hmm yes, the first one clearly is some Salix
    But there seem to be no Salix that is greyish above and under the leaves.
    Has a lot of hairs too.
     
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    Michael F Paragon of Plants Forums Moderator 10 Years

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    That could indeed be it.
    I wrote the tree is about 10m high, 7m wide with no central trunk. It had a smooth trunk with tiny wholes in it. There were leaves from 1m above the ground.

    And could my 4th picture be a Cornus mas (Cornelian Cherry)? (http://i44.tinypic.com/14d36np.jpg)
     
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    It was a fresh branch, so there couldn't be any flowers on it.
    I'll have to go take a look again.
     
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    Cornus mas puts out its flowers before the leaves, so if it was a mature plant, this is NOT Cornus mas, and perhaps not any Cornus, as most put out their flowers before to shortly after leafing. [But I am not 100% certain that that applies to all Cornus].

    #2
    Reminds me of Lindera benzoin, Spicebush. But you are in Belgium and the genus seems to be strictly North American. I don't know if Lindera has been imported to Europe for horticultural use.
     
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    Michael F Paragon of Plants Forums Moderator 10 Years

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    It has, but you won't find it outside of botanical gardens, it isn't widely sold and hasn't proved invasive.
     
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    Hmm, ah well, it was the last one I had to find.
    But I think I'll have enough other plants to fill my herbarium.

    Thanks a lot, really helped me.
     

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