What is the name if the first flower? We call it chinese flower. HEre you will have some other flowers which I want to identify. THank you for your help
1. looks like Solenostemon scutellaroides (syn. Coleus blumei) 2. Crassula ovata 3. looks like Alocasia macrorrhiza
No, you won't. None of them are Chinese in origin. The one from Budapest nailed all three of them!! They are best called flowering plants not just flowers.
Yesyes Steve, certainly!!! Hm...but I can't see any flowers now... so they are now "not-flowering flowering plants", or "sometimes flowering, but now not flowering plants"... etc. Or am I wrong? :))) "One from Bp."
That's right, "common names" are neither right nor wrong. They are worthless and have no value whatsoever in correctly identifying plants. Just as yelling "hey you" is no substitute for calling someone by their proper name. ******************** I have not been to Budapest but I am certain you really exist because you make your presence known under the proper circumstances. I.E. responses to forum postings. Just because flowering plants aren't presently in flower, that doesn't mean they don't have the ability to flower under the proper circumstances. If you really want to get technical about it, flowers are only the sexual reproductive structures of flowering plants. On the other hand, no matter how hard you may try, a fern will never produce flowers because it is not a flowering plant. Ferns don't reproduce by flowers.
Thanks Steve! How many brand new information in one post... :))) But of course I just wanted to say- with my cheeky question- that you are a bit too strict sometimes!!! It's not a huge problem if a layperson says: "Please help me ID this flowers" and not for example "Please help me ID the vegetative organs of this 3 angiospermatophyta, dicotyledonopsida plants" ...
Sure its easy to bamboozle a layperson because they don't know any better but that's not the point at all. The point is that it is better to give the correct name of genus and species that can be verified than to make up some "common name" that will only lead to furthur confusion. There is nothing strict about not being ambiguous. Please, no more "Straw man" arguments today. I get more than enough of that watching the news on TV.
Of course, when the botanical name is known to the poster using that is liable to be more precise. Often it is not known to the poster, or a frequently used common name is adequate.
Wow! Whoa! "Most" of us will notice that a lot of posters ask questions here because they are new to gardening, or aren't so called "expert gardeners". Those of us who are used to gardening and have plant knowlege which is at the top end of the pyramid "walks the walk and talks the talk" - i.e., we are comfortable and familiar with botanical names and accepted botanical terminologies. Those of us who really need help and come here asking legitimate questions are less likely to have a comparable level of expertise and knowledge - we may be more comfortable using terms we are familiar with - i.e. common names, etc. We should all try to be gentle and not sound harsh to those latter folks. They mean well, they are sincerely looking for answers. We should do all we can to help, but at the same time, respect where those posts are coming from.
After a week sick on bed I am back. The first flower we in Albania call it chinese flower becasue it looks like chinese smiling face. This flower was introduced to Albania during the communism system and was as a gift from Chinese gonverment when they were allay during Communism in 1970s. Maybe this is the way that we in Albania call it chinese flower. I do not know the origin of the flower.
The Solenostemon scutellaroides flowers on may but when it is caring indoors and not outdoors. The photo is taken on September 2008 and means it is autum and getting cold. So the plant does not flower at this season, bt here in Albania it flowers only indoors. Anyway I like your discusion and thank you we can continue more.
WHen it gets a spadix, you can try to pollinate it, but more easily by offsets that it produces once it gets a bit older. Ed
