Every now and then I come across a website that provides a search for plant ID by ticking the known characteristics, but then I lose my reference to the site. If anyone knows of such sites, could you post links here? They should not be too specific to a small region. The point is that they should not use a binary elimination process, where if you don't know the answer to the first question asked, you're out. It seems like such an obvious need - for instance, to look for plants with a certain unusual leaf shape. It should be easy. Search engine hits are for various reasons just frustrating (this was discussed at great length in the forum posting Using the Internet wisely to search for plants!) and seem even more so lately. If you want to discuss the reason for that, please do it in that thread. I'd like to see not too much discussion but some good links here. I'll start with one cited in the thread mentioned above: World Wide Flowering Plant Family Identification page.
Wendy, read your post and thought of Botany in a Day---The Patterns Method of Plant Identification, Thomas J. Elpel's Herbal Field Guide to the Plant Families of North America. Here is this page from the related website---was interested to see that your link appears thereon! http://www.wildflowers-and-weeds.com/wlinks.htm
togata, that page has lots of options for searches, so it's useful to have, though only the one I already knew seems to be the kind of search I'm seeking. But I did just order the book! Thanks for posting that.
Colby College’s feature selection approach is, of course, better in sense that you don't have to go along each branch when you don't have an answer. The bad thing, however, is that you have to deal with TOO many features, mostly irrelevant to your plant. A more flexible, intermediate approach would be great, when selection of one feature eliminates all irrelevant options. But this is a huge programming work. What would be feasible is having a digitized version of FNA combined with a google-like search engine. Dream on! By the way, Colby College probably did not like too much attention and closed for now.
Thanks, Susan. That's what I mean by losing track of the sites. I was able to log on to that site, so I obviously have been there before. Thanks for citing it here. Andrey, yes, being able to start anywhere in an elimination scheme would be great. Re: Colby, they say they'll be back this afternoon. There have only been 68 visits to this thread till now, and surely we didn't all go to the Colby site at the same time. And it's not the first time the link has appeared on this forum. It's hard to imagine we could bring down their server.
I should look at my phone apps more often. I see that I have one called Washington Wildflowers, put out by University of Washington, Burke Museum, & High Country Apps, LLC. It has a very nice Search by Characteristics, offering options to select Growth Habit, Main Flower Color, Flowering Period, Region, Habitat, Leaf Arrangement, Leaf Type, Growth Duration and Origin (Native or Introduced). It has 870 plants. http://www.burkemuseum.org/info/press_browse/wildflower_app_pr But it's just Washington and just wildflowers.
I don't know if anyone else is using these but I have a few Wildflower Identifiers that I use on the internet and as an app on my phone. www.realtimerendering.com/flowers/flowers.html http://wisplants.uwsp.edu/familykeyw.html http://www.hillbillyblue.com/WildFlowers/GeneraTraitSelect.php And the other is an iOS and android app called Wildflower Identification. They don't always work but they've helped me catalog a lot of random seeds i've picked up while I was out doing stuff.
The worldwide flowering plant family identification that wcutler linked to is fantastic. I can find multiple sites for identifying wildflowers, which is a lot of what i've been doing, but i have a yard full of plants left by the previous homeowner that i haven't been able to identify. This including some plants of exotic and expensive origin. So hopefully i can expand the variety included in my knowledge base.
Saxon281, the links you gave were exactly the kind of online search I'm looking for, but for more than wildflowers! Thanks for posting those.
I somehow came upon another thread on which I made the comment that what I was looking for there should be added to the Resources page (Links/Downloads, on the top navigation bar) for PNW Native Plants Resources. I've just added a link to Pacific Northwest Wildflowers (thanks to Nadia for telling me about it). Here, I wasn't really looking for wildflowers or specifically PNW, but the advanced search on that site is like what I'm looking for.
Wendy, We recently re-furbished and revised the software at http://www.aerulean.com/?selected_category_ids=&image_type=general&page=1&name_id= I do hope you will take a look... and let me know what you think? Susan Dunlap www.findplants.net
Yes, that's exactly the idea. Thanks. I'll keep that in mind next time I want an ID to see how it works.
I just came across the UK Wildflower Finder Website search page. They have a lot more categories than just wildflowers, including trees, shrubs, grasses, ferns, several more. There are a lot of characteristics you can tick or select, including type of smell! But not leaf shape - most of the characteristics are about the flowers. The individual plant pages have a lot of photos of habit, leaves, flowers front and back, fruits.
Here is a Key to Neotropical Flowering Plant Families from Kew Royal Botanic Gardens. I have to click the HERE link to access an alternative version on the CBIT website. It hasn't helped me yet* identify one of the postings in this forum that interests me, but it does narrow down a search to likely families, and you can tick whatever characteristics you know. It's so frustrating that there does not seem to be, or I haven't found, a botanical search that only checks pages that have one species or even genus per page, so that if you enter several characteristics, it will find plants that have all those characteristics instead of pages with plants that have one of the characteristics each. * Edited: I have to take that back. This was the thread, and the Kew key results did include the family Urticaceae; the tree I think might be right was included on the photo page for that family. Here is Kew's Image Database: http://www.kew.org/science/tropamerica/imagedatabase/index.html.
Here is another interactive key, which I have not tried, the Delta int-key app, which you can read about at http://delta-intkey.com/angio/index.htm. I have not tried it. It requires the java run-time environment to be installed, so I have to check out what that is and whether I have it.
Well, I was trying to give the new Edge browser a chance, and it doesn't support plug-ins and therefore will not run Java (says on the Java website). I guess I'll go back to Firefox for the forums and these keys. OK, I've installed Java, downloaded the IntKey32 file from Delta, which it says is the only one of its programs that will run on a 64-bit operating system, and clicked it to run but nothing happens. If someone figures out how to use this thing, send easy instructions. Their website says "The Atlas of Living Australia (ALA) is currently rewriting the programs so that they will run under several operating systems. More information is available on DELTA-L." So maybe a new improved version will be coming along.
In another thread, forum user bjo posted a link to Flora-On | Flora de Portugal: http://www.flora-on.pt/. It's a wonderful website, easy to use even with no knowledge of Portuguese. It offers a screenful at a time of good-sized clear photos, organized by family, with some interactive key capability. And there is an interactive key. It says beta, and is now very biased toward flower characteristics. I hope they will add leaf characteristics. :)
Thanks to a lead from a forum member, I have added a write-up and link to Wildflower Search. You can read about it in the Pacific Northwest Native Plants Resources.
I just came across Oregon State University Department of Horticulture's Woody Plant identification system, at Plant Identification System. It came up as a hit when I put some characteristics into Google to figure out a shrub I saw today. I ticked the boxes and got the name of the plant I was trying to ID. Since this has landscape plants fairly local to my area, as well as Oregon native plants, it's exactly what I was looking for. The Landscape Plants website is at Oregon State Univ., LANDSCAPE PLANTS for the alphabetical list by genus, or Barabit's Star European Silver Fir , Oregon State Univ., LANDSCAPE PLANTS for the alphabetical list by common name. They say they have a mobile app, but I finally found a comment that it's under development.
I was reading about what turns out to be an introduced plant at a campground in Whatcom County, WA, and it was the details page for a Finnish site (in English), with a link at the bottom that says: "Identify species based on their characteristics!". The search subjects include, flowers, trees and shrubs, birds, butterflies, and fishes. The tab shows NatureGate, though the website name is in Finnish, and they have an app in the iTunes store. NatureGate I didn't actually manage to get to my starting page when I first tried the search, but I did when I only entered three characteristics and then browsed those results. Location selections are only in Finland, but I recognized a lot of the names.
Daniel Mosquin did a very quick demo of FloraGator - the key (ufl.edu) at the "Citizen Science for Plants and Pollinators: Tips and Tools to ID Plants" talk this morning. This key describes itself as a "web-based, multiple-entry key for flowering plant family identification". Perfect, except "FloraGator covers the 196 flowering plant families known to exist in the natural areas of Florida." My italics. That's great for people in that area, and it might work for some of our house-plants or for Florida plants imported to places with a similar climate. Their FAQ and Sources / Credits pages were an interesting read, with many good links. They list Flowering Plant Family Identification (colby.edu), which has been mentioned above but is not listed in the resource. It's not snazzy, but it does provide for a search by multiple characteristics. I will add both of these to the Resource page. This kind of search is possibly being replaced by photo ID apps, particularly something like World flora: Identify - Pl@ntNet identify (plantnet.org), in which you specify if you want the search to match the leaf, flower, fruit or bark.