Odd compound lobbed tree

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  1. Zerker7

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    This odd tree has eluded my identification attempts, so I thought perhaps some ideas could help me out. It's quite odd, out of the 3 leaflets, 2 are simple toothed and 1 lobed and toothed. Any ideas? Oh, I might aswell toss in this shrub too, oblong shiny leaves, not toothed, leaves are actually alternate but look whorled
     

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    Daniel Mosquin Paragon of Plants UBC Botanical Garden Forums Administrator Forums Moderator 10 Years

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    Regarding the first plant - are the branches opposite?
     
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    Oh boy, quick response, honestly I can't recall, I'd have to go back to the field and check, I'll go check that out and reply pretty soon
     
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    #2 looks like Northern Bayberry (Myrica pensylvanica)

    #1 could well be a rapidly growing Manitoba Maple (Acer negundo)
     
  5. Daniel Mosquin

    Daniel Mosquin Paragon of Plants UBC Botanical Garden Forums Administrator Forums Moderator 10 Years

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    Agreed re: the possibility of Manitoba maple on number 1 - that's why I was asking about the opposite branches. Young Acer negundo can have extremely variant leaves from the adults (I once collected a leaf from a young plant in shade that had a form and size similar to adult bigleaf maple).
     
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    I figured that's the reason you were asking about alternate vs. opposite. I've broken enough A. negundo stump sprouts off to see the similarity....and there are not that many other options for Ottawa area.
     
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    Michael F Paragon of Plants Forums Moderator 10 Years

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    I'd agree with Smivies on both. The leaves are opposite on #1, so the branching will be too.

    There's also what looks to be a couple of Aspen sprouts in pic #2.
     
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    Quite a few replies, I just returned from the area and it is perfectly opposite, thank you very much on the response and for all your expertise.

    Quite an odd looking little tree this one though, that's what makes studying plants so much fun.
     

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