Identifying a tree

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  1. anthonysharpe

    anthonysharpe Member

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    Hi Everyone,

    This is my first post...

    I have just received some saplings which I was told were cedars. However I am pretty sure that this is incorrect.

    I have attached an image of a fully grown version of this tree. The tree produces green liitle bulb things about the size of a large pea (that carry the seeds), they are waxy feeling and have a bees wax sought of a smell once they have been lying on the ground for a while and have turned a yellowy colour. upon peeling off this layer I got to a hard shell and then cracking that open I found about three or four little black seeds.

    I really dont know much about plants but I am dying to know what type of tree that I have. Any help would be appreciated.

    thanks,

    anthony...
     

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  2. David in L A

    David in L A Active Member 10 Years

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    Melia azedarach?
     
  3. Michael F

    Michael F Paragon of Plants Forums Moderator 10 Years

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    Definitely not a cedar, though can't see what it is on this photo. Can you get a close-up of the foliage?

    For reference, here's what a cedar (foliage and a cone) looks like:
     

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  4. Ron B

    Ron B Paragon of Plants 10 Years

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    Since it is a broad-leaved tree with compound leaves it seems possible it was supposed to be Chinese cedar (Toona sinensis). You ended up with something else, perhaps a member of the huge pea family. Have you seen any flowers on it?
     
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    lorax Rising Contributor 10 Years

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    My knee-jerk reaction on reading the description and seeing the tree was Molle (Schinus molle) although yours doesn't have the weeping habit I associate with them. The seed description is almost bang on, though.
     
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    David in L A Active Member 10 Years

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    Google search shows 'white cedar' as a common name for Melia, mostly on Australian sites.
     
  7. Ron B

    Ron B Paragon of Plants 10 Years

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    Ding!
     
  8. anthonysharpe

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    Wow, what an amazing response.
    thanks everyone.
    I didnt have many good pics to upload.
    But I think from checking the various names that you all suggested that the tree is a Melia azedarach (white cedar), I found some pictures of the fruit and the leaves close up on the net and I have attached them.

    I also found out that these are considered a bit of a weed or pest tree... hmmmm. Should I be planting this tree at all? It also says the fruits are toxic and can be fatal in doses of about 4 to 6 berries.

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    I have been reading a book called. Anastasia. (its a bit way out, but an interesting read on plants and their interrelationship with humans) So I am trying to find either seeds or saplings for either a russian cedar, or a lebanon cedar. (these trees are talked about in the book).

    Would anyone know of where I could get a hold of either of these for planting.

    thanks again to all and have a great new year...

    cheers,

    anthony...
     

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  9. Ron B

    Ron B Paragon of Plants 10 Years

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    Cedrus libani is liable to be on the market somewhere in Australia. It will not grow in all parts, of course.
     
  10. Liz

    Liz Well-Known Member 10 Years

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    I have one in the garden. Been there for about 20 years. Not a big tree BUT when I went to my mother in laws (on Murray river Swan Hill) hot summer mid teens centigrade winter they were huge and yes appeared to be a weed. So if you are in a cool area I don't think it will be a problem. Down in the city (Melbourne Aust.) they are street trees of the small variety. Anthony it might help if you can give a rough location in yr. signature. Aust. is a BIG place :)

    Liz
     
  11. anthonysharpe

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    ahh,

    sorry, yes I am a melbourne boy.
    postcode is 3145...

    cheers,

    anthony...
     
  12. Liz

    Liz Well-Known Member 10 Years

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    Right ! Down in the flat area. Your tree will be very demure and pretty. I am up in the hills near Steaming William.

    Liz
     

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