Victoria or Santa Rosa

Discussion in 'Fruit and Nut Trees' started by Unregistered, Dec 21, 2004.

  1. A few years ago I bought a plum tree and now I can't remember which variety I did get.
    At the time I was looking at a Santa Rosa and a Victoria, but the lable has gone missing. Is there an easy way of telling which one I might have. The fruit ripens late Januari, early Februari (which would be late July, early August in the Northern hemisphere). The plums are dark red/purple and the flesh is yellow, the stone clings.
    Even thought I have no other plum trees, it fruits very well.
    I know from reading that the Santa Rosa make a good polinator, how about the Victoria. The reason for this question is that I've bought a Satsuma and a Billington last week.

    Thanks for reading this message and I'm looking forward to a reply.


    Ron
     
  2. mr.shep

    mr.shep Well-Known Member 10 Years

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    Hi Ron:

    Why not join the UBC forums? We could use
    more information on plants from where you are
    located.

    Your Plum seems to me to be a Late Santa Rosa
    more so than a Victoria. Personally, I think you
    will be happier having the Santa Rosa instead.
    The Santa Rosa is a standard pollinizer here for
    many other Plums, the Satsuma being one of
    them. You should be fine with your Billington
    also even though it is generally regarded as an
    earlier ripening Plum than either the form of
    Santa Rosa you have and the Satsuma. The
    Billington is self-fertile.

    Both the Santa Rosa and the Victoria are self-fertile
    also meaning they do not need a pollinizer to produce
    a crop. They will, in the case of the Santa Rosa and
    probably also with the Victoria, produce a larger crop
    if there is another Plum nearby, even if the Plum is
    another like Santa Rosa or a like Victoria respectively.
    Keep in mind that Santa Rosa is an all encompassing,
    general term for Early, Standard and Late forms of
    Santa Rosa Plums.

    Jim
     
  3. Rodewe

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    Thanks Jim for your comments,

    The more I think about it, the more I'm convinced that I indeed have the Santa Rosa.
    At the moment the fruit is about full size, but still green. A few more weeks and they will be ripe.
    I'll have to go through this forum and see if I can find anything about pruning. In the three years since I planted it, I've never pruned it at all.
    In the first year I had 1 and a halve plum ;-) last year about 150, so that was a good increase, this year about the same (150) so no increase. Mind you, we had quite a bit of wind which did not help. The tips of the tallest branches are about 4 meter (12 foot) tall (from about 1.5 meter or 4 foot in the first year)

    Btw, as you can see, I've registered :-)
    Ron
     
  4. mr.shep

    mr.shep Well-Known Member 10 Years

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    Hi Ron:

    Thanks for joining the forums.

    You may want to show us some images of your Plum and
    then we might be able to tell you how to prune it. Jimmyq
    in these forums will be the guy you will want to talk to about
    pruning. I can help also. I'll be pruning my trees next month.

    Jim
     
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    Thanks again Jim,

    Just made a couple photo's. We've had all day very heavy rain and I noticed one of the centre branches did not handle the weight of water(see photo 8251). Also other branches are still drooping as it only just stopped for minute with raining.
    Anyway, hope they are clear enough else I'll make some more during daylight as I made these ones at 8:45 pm.
    On photo 8252 you can see a Persian Silk tree behind the plum tree. It will flower next month, but I was wondering if that tree can be pruned. I used to see the top of it from my balcony and always enjoyed the sea of silky pink flowers, but it is now above eye level. Even though it is not a fruit tree, it is a fantastic tree to have. If there is any interest, I'll make some photo's of it when it flowers.

    Regards,
    Ron
     

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