If I am lucky we will have a nice fall. Last year it was a very cool wet summer and we didn't have our first frost until Sep 27th, but it didn't do too much damage. We didn't have another one until early November. I picked my last carrots and beets on Nov. 3rd. I built a couple of small raised beds, 4 x 4, last year and they were the only ones that did well. I started building 3 more, each 4' by 10', made out of 2 x 10's. I still have to add soil to them. Right now there is still so much snow that I can't even see where they are and to top it off, it's been snowing all day.:( I dream of spring.