Seiryu?

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  1. mr.shep

    mr.shep Well-Known Member 10 Years

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    In cooler areas the crimson will indeed later turn into a purple red.
    If we got some light frosts, not heavy frosts, with some sunlight
    during the day we saw our plants turn the beautiful purple red
    colors. The yellow cast green form will turn more of a scarlet
    red after the golds and oranges are seen. It did for us. If the right
    conditions persist, this form can end up turning a purple red also.
    It is this form that goes through the most color changes of the
    three forms of Seiryu that I know of.

    In the early years in the US many nurserymen did not like Seiryu
    as to them it did not cascade enough to suit them. Seiryu was
    Don Kleim's favorite of all of the green dissectums and honestly
    he never really wanted to sell it to anyone. Don liked everything
    about that Maple. He had at least 40 of them (all three forms of
    Seiryu) planted throughout his 13 acre nursery.

    Jim
     
  2. chumasero

    chumasero Active Member

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    Here is a new picture of the first tree.
     

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  3. mr.shep

    mr.shep Well-Known Member 10 Years

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    Hi PG:

    We will need to see the Fall colors of both trees
    as well as the Spring colors to have a better idea
    as to which Maples you have, if indeed both are
    named varieties at this point in time. I am pretty
    sure I know the second Maple but I am not positive
    of it yet and may not be even after seeing the Spring
    colors of it.

    Jim
     
  4. Elmore

    Elmore Active Member 10 Years

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    My oldest...

    and largest 'Seiryu' on 11-21-04. Obtained from Harold Johnston, it's nearly 10' tall but has yet to show any fall color, this year.
     

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    Elmore Active Member 10 Years

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    More 'Seiryu' pics

    Here are some of my favorite 'Seiryu' shots. A smaller tree that I grafted. In the last images my legless friend is motivating towards 'Viridis'.
     

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    Here are spring foliage pictures for the my first tree. First picture was made 2 weeks earlier than the other two. Thanks for any suggestions. PG
     

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    Here are pictures for my second tree.
     

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    Mr. Shep,
    Here is my thought:
    1) The red tree has green trunks, leaving out two weeks later than my Inaba shidare with green tone, leave color is dark purplish-red color in summer but becomes greener in shade, looks like a strong growing dissectum structure. A Crimson Queen? Or a Garnet? Or a grafted seedling performs close to above two?
    2) Compared the green tree's spring and fall leaves color to the pictures of Viridis in the Esveld site, I saw a good similarity there. The only thing I found it is not easy to convince myself is that its leaves have red tone in summer. Even though I strongly suspect it is a grafted seedling, it seems it will not against the generally accepted definition of Viridis. So it is a viridis?
    As a newbie, I feel it is difficult to ID a maple even you gave me many hints. Maybe the learning curve is huge and need people's practice, practice and practice.
    Thanks,
    PG
     
  9. whis4ey

    whis4ey Well-Known Member 10 Years

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    I have just updated my website with more maple pics. Seiryu has 9 pictures in all which show the many different colours I am getting on this marvellous maple. It is worth taking a look
    Seiryu pics
     
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    The green dissectum, which I thought it a viridis in last post, has developed some red tones on its leave tips. This morning, I found it is growing a couple of complete red leaves. Any ideas?
     

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