Scuppernongs (Muscadines) How do I care for them?

Discussion in 'Grapes and Grape Vines' started by RhondaKay, May 12, 2006.

  1. RhondaKay

    RhondaKay Member

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    I got a vine from my mom's backyard. It was just starting to try to bud out for the new season and it has been growing into a chain link fence and up a tree for about 5 years now. We practically had to butcher the poor thing. I transplanted it in an area that will get plenty of direct sunlight but will also have some shade (from very tall oaks and pines). We did this about 4-5 weeks ago and I now have shoots coming off of the main trunk that are about 12 inches long. The leaves are getting big and the color is great. It grew from seeds of Scuppernongs that we got from a "pick your own" vineyard. The scuppernongs were very large, very sweet and almost a bronze color. When it was at her house it produced fruit but this fruit was no where near the size of what it originated from. Would that be a fertilization and pruning issue or a polination issue?

    Also, we bought our house a couple of years ago. It has almost an acre and 1/4 of that is very overgrown. We have been slowly clearing it because it has a small magnolia tree, loads of azalea's, day lillies, southern magnolia, japanese magnolia, wild plum (I transplanted from off shoot of uncle's tree..it bloomed for the first time this year..of course no fruit this year but maybe next) lots of what I think is ornamental blueberry and crepe mertle as well as what my grandmother called mertle. All of this is being choked out by honeysuckle, and some sort of ground cover vine that is almost emerald green and gets small yellow flowers. Anyway, as we have progressed we have found 4 grape vines. Very long, lots of empty vine space between leaves. These vines have extremely small groups of what I hope will grow into grapes. Do male vines get these small groupings on them?

    Please tell me how to care for these vines and any of the other plants I've listed. I also have 10 vines growing in my greenhouse (never had one of those before and need some ideas...my husband is actually using one side for storage) from the seeds of scuppernongs I bought last year (I absolutely LOVE this fruit).
     
  2. Ralph Walton

    Ralph Walton Active Member 10 Years

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    The grapes I am most familiar with (v. vinifera and a few american hybrids) seldom grow "true" from seed, and I'd bet the same is true for your muscadines. That is not to say you wont get some interesting and perhaps worthy plants from your seed-grown vine, after all that's how a lot of our now standard varieties have been developed. With the exception of some newer varieties, Muscadines are not self fertile. The male and female flowers are on separate plants. See this site for some more info:

    http://www.crfg.org/pubs/ff/muscadinegrape.html
    MUSCADINE GRAPE Fruit Facts

    Ralph
     
  3. fastpat

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    Scuppernong's are not capable of growing "true" from seed since they're female flowered only. They require a perfect flowered variety for pollenation, and the seeds produced are a cross of those two.
     

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