Only Three

Discussion in 'Maples' started by Kaitain4, Jun 30, 2009.

  1. mattlwfowler

    mattlwfowler Active Member Maple Society

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    Right now:

    Gold Reticulated
    Hefner's Red Select
    Hupp's Dwarf (this spring I might have said Mikawa yatsubusa but not right now)

    Check back with me in a couple of months :D
     
  2. tjcher

    tjcher Active Member

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    I've changed my mind....

    Hogyoku
    Osakazuki
    Saoshika
     
  3. prairiestyle

    prairiestyle Active Member Maple Society 10 Years

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    hehehe...

    For me, for now, it's:

    A.p. 'Ebony' - love the dark dark purple/green combo of color on the leaves (shaded/non-shaded)
    A.s. 'Autumn Moon' - same reason, different colors - light yellow/green with red edges
    A.s. 'Kawaii' - beautiful leaf shape, similar coloring as Autumn moon - lovely red edges
     
  4. kaspian

    kaspian Active Member 10 Years

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    Here is a recap of where we stand in this thread.

    4 votes
    shirasawanum 'Aureum'

    3 votes
    [none]

    2 votes
    Hogyoku
    Kamagata
    Mikawa Yatsubusa
    Orange Dream
    Ornatum
    Osakazuki
    Seiryu

    1 vote
    Aratama
    Beni komachi
    Beni komo no su
    Beni Shichihenge
    Beni tsukasa
    Butterfly
    dissectum 'Eagle Claw'
    Ebony
    Fairyhair
    Fireglow
    Geisha
    Gold Reticulated
    Hefner's Red Select
    Hiryu
    japonicum 'Woods #2'
    Hupp's Dwarf
    Jordan
    Junihitoe
    Manyo no sato
    Olsen's Frosted Strawberry
    Oshio beni
    Red Pygmy
    Saoshika
    Satsuki beni
    Shigarami
    shirasawanum 'Autumn Moon'
    shirasawanum 'Kawai'
    shirasawanum 'Palmatifolium'
    Shindeshojo
    Tsukushi gata
    Tsuma Gaki
    Ukigomo Hogyoku
    Waterfall
    Wou nishiki

    Now a word about how the votes were counted. I have applied the following editorial guidelines:

    1. The clear intent of the original poster was to put maple lovers in the difficult, even uncomfortable position of having to select only three varieties out of the dozens or hundreds they grow and love. There were a couple of cases where members were straining to comply with this restriction, but could only pare their choices down to four. I have allowed this as being in keeping with the (ruthless) spirit of the game.

    2. There were other cases in which members, as someone said, "moved the goal posts" -- expanding the list to include a variety for each month of the year, for example. This, if you'll pardon me, seems like cheating. So I tossed all those selections out.

    That gives us the list above.
     
  5. maf

    maf Well-Known Member Maple Society

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    Interesting recap, kaspian, and a worthy leader so far in the shape of shirasawanum aureum.

    But where are your three choices......?
     
  6. mattlwfowler

    mattlwfowler Active Member Maple Society

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    If I may I'd like to add a note concerning the love for A. s. Aureum. I too am a fan of this cultivar, but being in S.C. it is a bit touchy in any sunlight. I have had good luck with the new cultivar A. s. Moonrise, however, even in near full sun exposure with little sunburn. It does add some red hues at times, but right now the color is almost identical to that of my Aureum. Just thought I'd throw that out for those that would love to try this one out in the south.
     
  7. kaspian

    kaspian Active Member 10 Years

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    Maf, you are very kind to ask, but I am such a newbie, I hardly feel capable of venturing an educated opinion. I'm especially interested in this thread as a way of informing my own choices about varieties to add to my small collection.

    I can add some thoughts to mattlwfowler's observation about A.s. 'Moonrise' and its near relatives, at any rate. Here in Maine the situation is (not surprisingly) different from South Carolina. 'Moonrise' is quite vigorous and tough as nails. But even with several hours of midday sun, it has not yet -- as of August 10 -- changed fully to a yellow-green color that approximates that of 'Aureum.' Most of the leaves still show a bit of the reddish tones of their spring coloration. It's perfectly nice, but markedly different from 'Aureum.'

    There's a similar pattern with 'Autumn Moon,' which still remarkably has retained most of its vivid orange spring coloring. This too is growing in bright midday sun. (And in rather awful soil, I might add.) It's really the finest thing in my garden this year.

    Now that I think of it, I will cast an "only three" vote for this plant:

    - A. shirasawanum 'Autumn Moon.'
     
  8. Scion Swapper

    Scion Swapper Active Member

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    This changes from year to year, but here are my new 3 favorites:

    1. A.p. 'Hana matoi' - absolutely amazing pink and red variegated color combination for a cutleaf.
    2. A.p. 'Bi hou' - A palmatum with the winter bark of the yellow twig dogwood. Seems to suffer from winter burn though, like 'Sango kaku' does.
    3. A.p. 'Ryusen' - Just a freak of a plant. I would love to have one that was staked up about 30 feet off the ground (bob and weaved up the stake in a natural fashion, kinda like Fagus sylvatica 'Purple Fountain' grows). A patented Acer palmatum that is worth patenting (unlike many of the others that hold patents).

    I will have 3 new ones next year (or next week).

    Brian
     
  9. Michael F

    Michael F Paragon of Plants Forums Moderator 10 Years

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    You missed out my 3 choices!

    Here they are again:
     
  10. eq72521

    eq72521 Active Member

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    Brian,
    These are slick cultivars.
    I am considering ordering a Bi nhou - but I am concerned about die back with it in zone 5B. I can put it in a cold frame, but I am not sure the 'summer bark' makes that worthwhile. I would be interested more in your comments! (althought they are off thread a bit)

    Mike
     
  11. kaspian

    kaspian Active Member 10 Years

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    Sorry Michael! And thanks to Mike, Brian, and Katalina for additions to the list.

    Here are the updated rankings, and note that we have a new #2 favorite:

    4 votes
    shirasawanum 'Aureum'

    3 votes
    Osakazuki

    2 votes
    Hogyoku
    Kamagata
    Mikawa Yatsubusa
    Orange Dream
    Ornatum
    Seiryu
    shirasawanum 'Autumn Moon'

    1 vote
    Aratama
    Beni komachi
    Beni komo no su
    Beni shichihenge
    Beni tsukasa
    Bi hou
    Butterfly
    davidii 'Rosalie'
    dissectum 'Eagle Claw'
    Ebony
    Fairyhair
    Fireglow
    Geisha
    Gold Reticulated
    Hana matoi
    Hefner's Red Select
    Hiryu
    japonicum 'Woods #2'
    Hupp's Dwarf
    Jordan
    Junihitoe
    Manyo no sato
    maximowiczianum
    Olsen's Frosted Strawberry
    Oshio beni
    pseudoplatanus (200 years old)
    Red Pygmy
    Ryusen
    Saoshika
    Satsuki beni
    Shigarami
    shirasawanum 'Kawai'
    shirasawanum 'Palmatifolium'
    Shindeshojo
    tegmentosum
    Tsukushi gata
    Tsuma Gaki
    Ukigomo Hogyoku
    Waterfall
    Wou nishiki
    Yasemin
     
  12. garcan

    garcan Active Member 10 Years

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    Hope it is not too late to put in my three:
    1. Shindeshojo
    2. Seiryu
    3. Ukigomo
     
  13. kaspian

    kaspian Active Member 10 Years

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    No way -- the polls never close! In fact your selections have shuffled the ranking again, creating a tie for second place:

    4 votes
    Shirasawanum 'Aureum'

    3 votes
    Osakazuki
    Seiryu

    2 votes
    Hogyoku
    Kamagata
    Mikawa Yatsubusa
    Orange Dream
    Ornatum
    Shindeshojo
    shirasawanum 'Autumn Moon'
    Ukigomo

    1 vote
    Aratama
    Beni komachi
    Beni komo no su
    Beni Shichihenge
    Beni tsukasa
    Bi hou
    Butterfly
    davidii 'Rosalie'
    dissectum 'Eagle Claw'
    Ebony
    Fairyhair
    Fireglow
    Geisha
    Gold Reticulated
    Hana matoi
    Hefner's Red Select
    Hiryu
    japonicum 'Woods #2'
    Hupp's Dwarf
    Jordan
    Junihitoe
    Manyo no sato
    maximowiczianum
    Olsen's Frosted Strawberry
    Oshio beni
    pseudoplatanus
    Red Pygmy
    Ryusen
    Saoshika
    Satsuki beni
    Shigarami
    shirasawanum 'Kawai'
    shirasawanum 'Palmatifolium'
    tegmentosum
    Tsukushi gata
    Tsuma Gaki
    Waterfall
    Wou nishiki
    Yasemin
     
  14. winterhaven

    winterhaven Active Member Maple Society 10 Years

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    I'm getting different numbers using the guidelines:

    Four Votes
    Aureum 4 votes found in posts 6 7 8 26

    Three Votes

    Autumn Moon 3 votes found in posts 1 29 33
    Orange Dream 3 votes found in posts 2 5 36
    Seiryu 3 votes found in posts 6 18 43

    Two Votes
    Mikawa yatsubusa 2 votes found in posts 5 26
    Olsen's Frosted Strawberry 2 votes found in posts 2 16
    Osakazuki 2 votes found in posts 28 36
    Shindeshojo 2 votes found in posts 6 43

    One Vote
    Aratama 1 vote found in post 2
    Bemi komo no su 1 vote found in post 16
    Beni komachi 1 vote found in post 25
    Beni Shichihenge 1 vote found in post 18
    Beni tsukasa 1 vote found in post 25
    Bi hou 1 vote found in post 34
    Butterfly 1 vote found in post 16
    Eagle Claw 1 vote found in post 8
    Ebony 1 vote found in post 29
    Fairyhair 1 vote found in post 5
    Fireglow 1 vote found in post 26
    Geisha 1 vote found in post 17
    Gold Reticulated 1 vote found in post 27
    Hana matoi 1 vote found in post 34
    Hefner's Red Select 1 vote found in post 27
    Hiryu 1 vote found in post 15
    Hogyoku 1 vote found in post 28
    Hupp's Dwarf 1 vote found in post 27
    Jordan 1 vote found in post 17
    Kamagata 1 vote found in post 15
    Kawaii 1 vote found in post 29
    Manyo no sato 1 vote found in post 17
    Oshio beni 1 vote found in post 18
    Ornatum 1 vote found in post 7
    Red Pygmy 1 vote found in post 8
    Ryusen 1 vote found in post 34
    Saoshika 1 vote found in post 28
    Satsuki beni 1 vote found in post 1
    Shigarami 1 vote found in post 7
    Tsukushi gata 1 vote found in post 7
    Tsuma Gaki 1 vote found in post 15
    Ukigumo 1 vote found in post 43
    Woods #2 1 vote found in post 1
    Wou nishiki 1 vote found in post 25
    Yasemin 1 vote found in post 36
    Acer pseudoplatanus 1 vote found in post 22
    Acer maximowiczianum 1 vote found in post 36
    Snakebark maple: Acer tegmentosum/Acer grosseri 1 vote found in post 36
     
  15. kaspian

    kaspian Active Member 10 Years

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    Thanks, Winterhaven, for correcting my sloppy tabulating. We'll use this as the reference list going forward.
     
  16. jwsandal

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    OK- I am late on this one...

    I cant believe that paxi is the only one with:
    1. Mikawa Yatsubusa

    no mention of:
    2. Murasaki kiyohime

    and finally,
    3. Aratama

    Like everyone else, this will next month...
     
    Last edited: Aug 31, 2009

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