[Edited by wcutler May 11, 2008]: I'm leaving in all my anguished questions, but we can answer this now: the trees in this first posting are all Kanzans, and wherever there are rows of these showy pink trees lining one or both sides of whole blocks, they're Kanzans, in Vancouver anyway. See my posting this year of three tree shapes, asking if they all can be Kanzan, and see Douglas Justice's reply about a week later that yes, Kanzans do take all those shapes, depending on conditions and pruning. This thread has some good examples of Pink Perfection blossoms. Pink Perfections are very rare in Vancouver, and when the trees are starting to blossom, the peachy colour makes them very obvious - or as Douglas says "a piece of cake". I didn't believe that last year; now I do. If we don’t get help with this, I’m threatening to post the 100 photos I’ve taken so far of (is it) Pink Perfection or Kanzan (just KIDDING, Daniel). I even know some things: - Kanzan (and Akebono) are the most planted trees in Vancouver - Kanzan have a more vase shape, Pink Perfection are more open and drooping - Pink Perfection blossoms are lighter in colour than Kanzan - Pink Perfection are less vigorous looking than Kanzan - Pink Perfection have a white dot in the centre. - Pink Perfection have two-toned blossoms. All the above helped us not one bit, unless every frilly pink thing in Vancouver’s West End is Pink Perfection, but that’s not supposed to be the case. Some questions we had: Is it the dot that’s important, or the colour of the dot? All the trees we saw April 10 had a yellow dot. What centre do Kanzan have or is it that you can't see the centre? Even on older blossoms? Is it that a petal that will be two-toned, or in the blossom as a whole? Everything we saw had colour variations in the blossoms. I’m looking an answer for each set of tree photos. [Edited Feb 24: I can get the photos next to the text now.] They're all shown tree followed by its blossoms. 1 & 2 shape fits my understanding of Pink Perfection. 3 & 4 shape fits my understanding of Kanzan. 5 & 6 seems like a hefty Kanzan frame with droopy Pink Perfection branches. 7 & 8 seems like delicate Pink Perfection frame with upright Kanzan branches. 9 & 10: this tree is on Pendrell at Thurlow in Vancouver and is a very fine looking tree. It’s so much fuller than the other frilly pink trees, and bloomed about two weeks earlier, so I wonder if it’s not one of the two in question at all (like maybe Hodulai?), or is it just that it’s such an old healthy tree? All my new scout friends and I thank you.