Interesting Seedlings, Questions

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  1. maplesandpaws

    maplesandpaws Active Member

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    My seedlings seem to be faring well thus far in our very hot temps (90-100 the past few weeks), but two have stuck out. One is from Nuresagi, the other from Seiryu.

    As this is my first time growing from seed, I did have a few questions. I know some can show/keep unique characteristics immediately, but most take time to show their true colors so to speak. Is there a general time frame when this usually happens, or is it completely random? How long, typically, should a seedling be observed to determine what it's mature characteristics will be? Also, as with any plant/seed, some tend to sprout/grow faster than others. Does this usually mean they are 'stronger' than those that grow slower/sprout later, or does it not matter?
     

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    emery Renowned Contributor Maple Society 10 Years

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    I don't think there's any difference in when the seed germinates. I keep a seed tray for 2 years because there's quite a lot of germination the second year, I don't notice these are weaker plants generally.

    My experience is that some plants are weak, these are more difficult and I lose a lot of them during our very wet winters. When I look at root generation these usually have small roots.

    Some seedlings just don't thrive. 3 years ago I germinated 2 A. argutum. They've received identical treatment. One has filled a 3 l pot and I just moved it to a 7.5l last week. It's maybe 80cm tall, lots of growth this year. The other has 4 leaves, and is maybe 8cm. I dumped it out of it's 1l pot to look, there was only a small surface root... No whys or wherefors, it's just a weak sibling. Still nursing it along for now though!

    -E
     
  3. marymyers

    marymyers Active Member Maple Society

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    Andrea, I have similar questions about seedlings. Three of my Burgundy lace seedlings look completely different.
     

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  4. kalod

    kalod New Member Maple Society

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    I have same with yours.
    10% of seeds, turned out to be different.
    (these seeds sprouted last year's winter, ofcourse, in Vietnam, the winter is not too cold as in US, and what i found is that Maples only took around 1 month for sleeping :D)
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    Should I think that, many cultivars available now are grafted to become new cultivars, by using these sudden different types of seedlings?
     

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    marymyers Active Member Maple Society

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    Yes, you are correct. It will be interesting to see if the changes remain when they are a couple of years old. Hello to Hanoi. We were in Viet Nam last September. Beautiful country.
     
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    kalod New Member Maple Society

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    Thanks for your nice words, Marymyers.
    I live in Hanoi :D, and here I have more confidence to grow and train Maples (rather than in Hochiminh city - southern Vietnam).

    For some of my Maples with different types of leaf, I was thinking that the climate of Hanoi did make it change somehow :D. My intention is to grow these, then get some material for grafting onto A.Palmatum, to see if we will get any new cultivars here :D.
    Last year I bought some seeds from Japan (A.P matsumurae - Yamamomiji), but now they stay still in ziplock in fridge :D, I will spend 1 year more to see if there's anything lucky :D.
     
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    itsfullofstars New Member

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    The genetic variation from seedlings is amazing. I have about 11 seiryu seedlings growing and only one has a leaf shape close to seiryu itself.
    It is fascinating.
     
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    This is what I found in my trays. One with 3 and one with 4 cotyledons. And a few pink coloured.
     

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    patdero1 Active Member Maple Society

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    Hey Tiko
    What are you growing them in perlite? Wow you have a lot.
    I hope I get 20-30 to pop up
    Pat
     
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    Hi Patdero1,
    The perlit is very thin and at the top only.
    That way it prevents the quick drying of the medium.
    I feel very happy around them!
    These seedlings are from acer palmatum. I also have stratified seeds from Japonicum and Bloodgood- but so far no sprouting.
     

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