Hi there, can you help identify these palms?

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  1. oakweb

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    Hey I just got this lot of palms, 5 of them for about $400. Can anyone let me know if they think I got a good deal?
     

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    Junglekeeper Esteemed Contributor 10 Years

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    #1 and #3 appear to be Beaucarnea recurvata, Ponytail and Cycas revoluta, Sago Palm, respectively. They are not true palms.
     
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    Here are some better shots and newer palms, the 3 finger palm the gentlemen told me these are very old.. really would like to know what kind these are.
     

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    I think only photo #4 in the second batch of images is a Ponytail. Some, if not all, of rest may be cycads. You may want to have a look through the photo gallery at The Cycad Society.
     
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    Thank you, I found a good book on them at Amazon
    The Cycads by Loran M. Whitelock (Hardcover - May 1, 2002)

    I really like the look of these, very prehistoric looking at wild shapes. I never saw anything like them in Florida.

    Downside is I know they are pulling them from the wild, and it's probably not a good thing they are.

    I can't seem to find any Date Palms in Thailand.
     
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    I don't think Date palms (Phoenix dactylifera) grow very well in humid tropics. A dry semi desert area is where date palms grow best and commercial date production is.

    Cheers, LPN.
     
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    The tall cycads are probably Cycas pectinata, the small ones with swollen base (normally subterranean), C. siamensis. There are 2 pics of Beaucarnea recurvata.
     
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    Daniel Mosquin Paragon of Plants UBC Botanical Garden Forums Administrator Forums Moderator 10 Years

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    Cycas pectinata and Cycas siamensis both on the IUCN Red List as Vulnerable species. If these are plants pulled from the wild, you may have gotten a good deal, but the rest of the world (and future generations) have lost.
     
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    On IUCN Red List .... as are all cycad species, whether common or rare.

    I would not get in quite so much of a moral panic. These are two of the most widely distributed cycads of southeast Asia, rangeing over a lot of rugged and sparsely inhabited country. It's true that in some more accessible areas they are being exploited as landscape plants, even to the extent that specimens over a certain size are locally eliminated, but I doubt that there is even the slightest threat of the species' extinction. In Thailand at least they are common enough in some quite large national parks.

    Also, and I realise this is not necessarily relevant to nature conservation, the survival rate of transplanted Cycas spp. in the tropics is very high and they are very long-lived.
     

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