Cloning of maple cuttings in hydroponics

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  1. zfrittz

    zfrittz Active Member

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    My cuttings are a little slow, but because they were very small twigs, some less than a mm. and too soft wood because I had nothing else and I wanted to show how they are done before the heat arrives, that here with 35º or 40º it is very difficult to root, I prefer to do the cuttings when the temperature is below 24º.
     
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    Here are a few
     

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    Acerholic Esteemed Contributor Forums Moderator VCBF Cherry Scout Maple Society

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    @Mani, this is the thread if you are interested in going down this route. A very good step by step guide by @zfrittz

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    Super! Thanks - I will take a look!
     
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    kbguess Active Member 10 Years

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    From the weekend:

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    Cuttings

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    Post trimming getting a soak in rooting hormone

    in cloner.JPEG
    In the cloner

    with growlight.JPEG
    with LED grow light

    I forgot the wax that day. I put wax yesterday
     
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    The waxing is a new one for me. Do you apply roofing gel before you dip the cuttings in wax? Do you apply more after the wax hardens? Above the wax?
     
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    Acerholic Esteemed Contributor Forums Moderator VCBF Cherry Scout Maple Society

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    Good morning Skip., first of all welcome to the forum. Secondly, I have deleted your first posting as there was nothing in it. I presume you pressed the send button by mistake. Next if you want to make contact on a posting with someone directly on a thread, put @ before their name, for example @zfrittz in this case in a new post. This will ensure your reply is directed to the correct person. Your reply was directed to me which I am sure is not what you intended, as zfritz is the expert here on this subject IMO. Hope that helps.
     
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    kbguess Active Member 10 Years

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    This is day 8. Many of the cuttings starting to form "bumps" which I presume is the location for the roots to emerge

    rooting1.jpeg rooting2.jpeg
     
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    Acerholic Esteemed Contributor Forums Moderator VCBF Cherry Scout Maple Society

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    Amazing science K. This is fascinating stuff indeed. Without a doubt DO keep the postings coming.
     
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    That's correct @kbguess. I can't wait to see more of your updates.
     
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    @kbguess.
    Keep doing this you are doing well, you can already see the protuberances where the roots will come out, and there are no signs of rot.
    Be sure to update.
     
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    @kbguess what was your success rate in the end? Did you follow all of zfrittz's instructions?
     
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    kbguess Active Member 10 Years

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    @Mani I have no rooting yet. Most still look fine and lots have the "bubbles." A few got fungus on leaves and I removed and then started spraying remaining cutting foliage with dilute hydrogen peroxide.

    Since they look okay I am not giving up on them yet. Probably too hot in my garage. Next year I will put in the basement where temperatures are moderate.

    Things that I did not d0 were put in an aeration device (my system has a fan) and did not use anything to heat the water. I will do those both next summer
     
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    @kbguess Thanks for the update! We can all learn from this. I wouldn't give up hope either! I hope some successes follow shortly! Good luck!
     
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    @kbgues, good evening K, we are all hoping you have success. It is amazing science !!
     
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    @kbguess , how are the cuttings going? Update the thread when you can. We are looking forward to seeing how it goes.
     
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    @zfrittz I got a lot of callus but never any roots. After about 6 weeks I started to get black stems so I turned off the system. I have started getting a spot ready in the basement for next year. The temperature in my garage was probably too high. Basement should be perfect
    Thanks again for the instruction. I am confident next year will be successful.
     
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    @kbguess, just read your post Keith, such a shame. The experience will mean success next time.
     
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    WOW! That's look good :)
     
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    @kbguess, I feel that the cuttings turn black and do not root after having the calluses.

    At the beginning the same thing happened to me, if they rot, you must reduce the spraying of the cloner and control the temperatures very well, both in the aerial part and where the roots will be born.
    You also have to have everything very disinfected, so that the cuttings are not contaminated and add bleach to the water and change it every 3 or 4 days.
    The cuttings must root between 10 and 15 days, if the time lengthens the problems with the rot begin.
    Go over the entire process and don't forget anything, everything you comment on is very important, you can't skip a single step, no matter how silly it may seem.

    It took me a few years, and I learned it all through trial and error, and many lost cuttings.
     
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    @zfrittz, so informative as always J.
     

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