Camellia and Iris

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  1. Nadia White Rock

    Nadia White Rock Well-Known Member 10 Years

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    Is this Camellia cv. Michael in Winter garden started to bloom?
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    Another question about this cute iris with shortest stalk I've ever seen, it is stone pot near hothouse
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    Ron B Paragon of Plants 10 Years

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    Looks like a Camellia japonica cultivar. If it is 'Michael' it should be presented that way and not as cv. Michael. The iris is liable to be Iris histrioides 'Katherine Hodgkin'.
     
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    Nadia White Rock Well-Known Member 10 Years

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    Thank you!
     
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    Daniel Mosquin Paragon of Plants UBC Botanical Garden Forums Administrator Forums Moderator 10 Years

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    Note re: the iris: Iris 'Katharine Hodgkin' with the parentage Iris danfordiae × Iris histrioides 'Major'
     
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    Nadia White Rock Well-Known Member 10 Years

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    One more thank you.
     
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    Ron B Paragon of Plants 10 Years

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    I had known about that, actually, but carried the wrong name over from a web site. The yellow component would be due to the influence of the first parent - the cultivar is derived from a yellow species crossed with a blue one.
     
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    Nadia White Rock Well-Known Member 10 Years

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    How long it takes to bring out from parents a new so beautiful flower?
     
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    wcutler Paragon of Plants Forums Moderator VCBF Cherry Scout 10 Years

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    Speaking of Iris 'Katherine Hodgkin', which is the first photo, from the Alpine Garden, what about the flower in the second and third photos? I posted this last year with the tag as shown, Iris histrio Subsp. aintabensis. Some of what I see when I search on that name have much darker flowers, but not all of them. I didn't see any other iris in the vicinity. Does this tag really belong to this flower, or is it for something that comes up later, and the flower is really also 'Katherine Hodgkin'?
     
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    Ron B Paragon of Plants 10 Years

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    Yes, they appear similar but not the same. I'd read descriptions of the second one to see if the garden specimens matched. Just looking at internet pictures alone is often not satisfactory. Keys, manuals and other serious discussions state what specific characters distinguish particular plants.

    If the UBCBG library has the same camellia encyclopedia as the CUH down here - they had it before the fire anyway, I haven't checked to see if it still present in the collection - the 'Michael' name could be checked in that. Several thick black volumes, with good descriptions.
     

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