A pair?

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  1. lorax

    lorax Rising Contributor 10 Years

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    They may look dissimilar, but they are related somehow. Points for genus and species, cultivar on the green one if you can, and their relationship to each other.
     

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    Lila Pereszke Well-Known Member 10 Years

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    Hm... 1. Musa? 2. ... seeds... ?
     
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    lorax Rising Contributor 10 Years

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    1 is indeed Musa.
    2 are seeds, but from what?

    And how are they connected?
     
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    Lila Pereszke Well-Known Member 10 Years

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    Hm... well... if this is "a pair", and the first pic is a Musa species, then surely the seeds on the second pic are also from a Musa species!!! :))) But of course not from the cultivated steril hybrid banana...
     

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    lorax Rising Contributor 10 Years

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    Ah no. It is a "pair" but not in the sense of a pair of species. The second plant shares a characteristic with the banana, as well as something else that I can't really hint at; it's specific to Ecuador, though. Besides, Musa seeds are honking great things. The seeds in that picture are about 5mm along the long side.
     
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    Silver surfer Generous Contributor 10 Years

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    A long shot...Passiflora Mollissima, Banana passion fruit seeds... without the "jelly" coating?
     
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    lorax Rising Contributor 10 Years

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    Nope. The connection is less obvious than that.
     
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    Lila Pereszke Well-Known Member 10 Years

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    Sorry, but this new year is amazing cold here (the temperature is between -18C and -5C), so not just my plants but my brain is also frozen... :))) I don't know what could it be... :(
     
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    lorax Rising Contributor 10 Years

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    Think about what a Banana plant is in the Old World Tropics, and you might get a clue to what the other is in the New World Tropics. The two plants aren't genetically related other than at a most basic (they're both angiosperms) level.
     
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    the seeds are from either an anthurium or a philodendron.
     
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    Is it something cut open with seeds in it?
     
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    lorax Rising Contributor 10 Years

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    Joc, it's not. Blake, it is.
     
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    I know it's not but, the 2nd looks a little like inside one of our natives the 'fingerlime'. This is more like the inside of a Paw Paw or Papaya perhaps even? (Nice one Lorax, got me scratching my head)
     
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    lorax Rising Contributor 10 Years

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    Chungii, you got it. Those are Papaya seeds.

    So now that you know what both plants are, what's the connection?
     
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    They're both fruit trees? :}
     
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    lorax Rising Contributor 10 Years

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    Actually, no.
     
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    nic Active Member 10 Years

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    They've both got three "a"s in their names?
     
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    lorax Rising Contributor 10 Years

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    That's one I hadn't noticed, actually! Points to Nic.
     
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    :)))
     
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    You need a pair of Papaya to set fruit (unless it's a hermaphrodite), can't say the same for bananas though, except they do have male and female flowers.
     
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    Bananas are parthenogenetic, though. The male-female flower thing is a throwback to the seeded originals. So no, that is not it.
     
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    Michael F Paragon of Plants Forums Moderator 10 Years

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    They're both non-trees, even though they look like trees
     
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    Ding ding ding. Winner! They are the old-world and new-world tropics' largest herbaceous plants.
     
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    Talk about overlooking the obvious. Nice one!
     
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    Drat! Even I knew that!Clever!
     

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