3d Computer generated Rainforest Plants

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  1. Naima

    Naima Active Member

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    Hello ... I present a couple of pictures of the development ... I almoust finished the cocos nucifera palms set....

    A sunset...

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    The Rainforest Base Ground ....

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    A small Bay....

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    And I have also a question , what kind of plants are those seen in this picture and where I can find some pictures for both of them?

    http://www.pictureninja.com/pages/maldives/beach-hut-in-water.jpg
     
  2. lorax

    lorax Rising Contributor 10 Years

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    Hi Naima, sorry I've been away - family emergencies got me, and I haven't even made it to the forest yet. We're planning on a trip next week, though. Your soils are looking pretty good - quite accurate in terms of texture. Now all they need is a layer of fallen leaves....

    The foreground mystery plant looks like Plumeria, and the uppers are either Yucca or Dracaena. Both should be relatively easy to source by searching Google, as they're common and popular landscape plants in the Western hemisphere tropics, and popular houseplants in the Western temperate zones.
     
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    Cool no problem in the end I decided ot hand paint that terrain texture and remake of the palms :) ....
     
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    Liz Well-Known Member 10 Years

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    This has been very interesting ladies. No end to your font of knowledge Lorax. :)

    Liz
     
  5. Naima

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    Actually I am not finding any good picture for frangipani / plumeria , is there anyone having a good non shadowed picture of a leaf and of the trunk ? about flowers there are plenty online ....
     
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    I can't use those much unfortunately due to the way they where captured in pics with shadows or too much little , anyway hereis a site with severall plants leaves may be someone can recognize for me the leaf of a plumeria there?

    http://www.cgtextures.com/

    or here?

    http://mayang.com/textures/Plants/html/Leaves/index.html

    Otherwise I will have to build it up by scratch drawing but I not sure will lok very good ...
     
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    Yeh I googled b4 , I just need a fast sight to decide if its good or noth ,also I can't use copyrighted pictures like those with a mark over ...
     
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    lorax Rising Contributor 10 Years

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    I'll see what I can do in terms of unshadowed leaf and bark pics when I'm in the jungle next week, Naima. They're common boulevard trees in most of the Amazon towns. If not, you'll have to wait for October when I plan to go to the beach.
     
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    Hello ... my project still goes one for any of you interested , tough the main big problem I am meeting is that I can't create a incredible variety f plants as I planned couse of thelimitation of the computers , making severall textures for each plant and foliage type would soon cause a major lag and slowdons on any computer trying to see it , so I will have to recycle some foliage hoping for good and skipping my ideas to make all "realistic" severall plants and go for more "generic" lookalike plants , to create the feel of a rainforest reusing lots of textures instead than giving each plant its own bark , leaf etc ... Of course still some plants will be very specific and recognizeable like the kapok , palms , bananas etc ...while bushes and some generic trees will be more "generalized"....


    In eanwhile I would really be gratefull if anyone could provide me with a high resolution picture of a wall of vegetation , I mean something like a good sample of rock surface or terrain covered with foliage , small roots , small leaves , small rocks and whatever else possible ... something like the vegetation growing on sides of a waterfall in a deep jungle ... but I need a close picture :) .....

    here some samples .....

    http://www.ecuador365.com/jungle/puyo/waterfall3.jpg

    http://www.nomad4ever.com/wp-conten...-waterfalls-at-mambukal-negros-occidental.jpg

    http://image08.webshots.com/8/5/54/58/132355458yelKYB_fs.jpg

    http://lh5.ggpht.com/_y3YqRj2T5-E/RoFc7lvN0lI/AAAAAAAAAQw/Cj3Zhb1d420/IMGP1720.JPG

    http://t2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:...44457/t/4355841-Hola-Vida-Waterfall-0.jpg&t=1

    http://www.planetfear.com/includes/images/uploaded/3320071216175910waterfall.jpg

    also can anyone sugest me what are those trees with thin body and white bark that grow vertically and esile in center of this picture?

    http://www.wabash.edu/images2/photo_album/1576/rain forest1a.jpg


    oh and finally I know this is commony found anywhere but I can't find any good picture of a plumeria branch with leaves or just leaves or just bark , I just find flowers or bush pics ... any one has any good here? :)
     
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    Also what kind of tree are those along the river?

    http://0.tqn.com/d/lesbianlife/1/0/G/Q/JungleRiver.JPG

    http://www1.american.edu/ted/ice/images4/AmazonRiver.jpg

    http://asiatours.net/thailand/images/central/RK4-Title.jpg

    http://www.sln.org.uk/geography/images/SLN@Malaysia2005/Chris C/Small river near Nanga Sumpa.JPG

    http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb282/sl0ggs/Travel/Malaysia/Borneo075.jpg?1287343730

    http://images.travelpod.com/users/ryan-frida/1.1264441397.mineral-pool.jpg

    Especially I am not finding any sample of "round " leaves in jungle or rainforest trees , are they nonexistant and almoust all long or lanceolar shaped? Or just figs may have those ?

    In particular inthis pictue lower left are those fig leaves? But look different from theleaves coming out of the bark main piece , , the picture is said to be a picture of a Fig tree but the round leaves are from what?


    Also here I found a set of branches samples I could use as a inspiration or as references in case they are correct , do you think those "branches" are correctly labeled? Especially ficus and banyan?

    http://www.earthflora.com/artificial_branches.htm
     
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    lorax Rising Contributor 10 Years

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    Probably the closest you're going to get to "round" leaves for the canopy are the pachycaul trees like Cecropia palmata (photo below), which are round arrangements of lanceolate leaves. Almost all of the trees have lanceolate or palmate leaves - even the strangler figs, which have foliage closer to that of Ficus benjamina than they do Ficus edulis. This helps them to handle the huge amounts of rain that fall by efficiently funneling it off into the understory - round canopy leaves under the kind of rain that falls in these forests would quickly be perforated and become useless.

    On the other hand, in the understory Monstera, Philodendron, and the host of Aroids can provide large round foliage - these are plants that climb the trunks of the tall trees in the understory.

    In your photos, there are a variety of trees growing there. The Amazon ones feature a selection of the Mahoganies and tropical cedars; I can't speak to the Old World tropics ones. The habit of growing out over water or with flooded roots is common to a lot of different trees. There are also drooping running bamboos in some of the pictures. The Earthflora link is excellent and appears to be correctly ID'd.

    In reference to your previous post, I'm combing my archives for living wall pictures, and again, if I don't find them, I'll take them when I'm in the jungle.

    Almost all rainforest trees, especially those in the New World tropics, have white bark when they're young, and on many it persists into the mature trees (particularly the Mahogany family). The clues for ID are more in the order of the scent and colour of the sap, leaves, and wood.

    I'm still looking for Plumeria pictures that will work for you, but I will find a tree in the state required and take them!
     

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    Tanks a lot :) I actually managed , thogught painting and photosourcing colllages to make a wall of plants I am using for ivy textures , as for the ground of the rainforest I made that too and I actualy finished all the ground textures I needed so I can focus just on rocks and plants now .

    About the round leaves, correct me if I am wrong , I have discovered out that among all the plants and stuff I looked around the Ficus Religiosa seems to have quite a pretty roundish , small and pointed leaf , if this is a common tree at the tropics i could make use of those leaves to create a bit of diversity , and then make one or two "generic" lanceolate leaves " to use in bushes and trees of different types to just "lighten" the burden to the texture load in the computer , I just hope this trick will be go not much noticed to an "expert" eye so to be able to portray more plants and variations in shapes than in leaves that are anyway seen only by very close ...


    The plants tough that sitll will be specific I think are :

    Kapok
    Eventually Fig ( Ficus Religiosa)
    Hibiscus
    Palm coconut
    Banana plant
    Ferns
    another palm type
    Plumeria
    Generic LAnceolate leaf for the Durian tree and Cedrella Odorosa
    then some different ground leaves that can find place also into one single texture hopefully
    ......

    if any is to be added let me know so I can add :) ....
     
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    I'd go with it, if it's got a leaf shape you like. This is a tropics that's based on all tropics, rather than one specific one, so there's no reason not to use leaf shapes that you like. A quick bit of research tells me that Bodhi trees (F. religiosa) are fairly common in the Indochinese tropical forests, so you're good to go on that one. And that oval-cordate leaf shape is really attractive as well; it's a leaf shape that I personally associate with temperate trees like Poplar and Aspen, but which also occurs in the forests here on Erythrina (a shorter tree/tall shrub with often strikingly coloured foliage; the ones I'm used to have almost blackish purple-red leaves).

    For the ground leaves, I'd use a differently colour-mapped version of the Cedrella/Durian leaves - that seems to be the most common shape on the forest floor.
     
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    For this tree I have used the leaves of Bo tree , ficus Religiosa , and I took a "generic" Deciduous tree bark , that I found similar to the Ficus religiosa one ...

    I wonder if this kind of shape is suitable to represent a "young" FR tree and if I can go with it .... a older version would be more rooted and lianas I guess ... otherwise I coudl use as a generic round leaf tree as filler anyway ....

    what do you think?

    http://img213.imageshack.us/img213/2056/treec.jpg
     
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    That looks really good, Naima.

    I've also been thinking on the "round leaf" tree issue, and I've come up with another you could look at - Balsa (Oochroma pyramidalis).
     
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    Here is a Picture of a Massed compilation of the items I have done so far to create , I hope , a realistic Jungle environment ... what are your feelings and impressions?


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    That looks fantastic! My impression is that I'm in a rainforest, although I'm unable to say exactly where (although I'm unusual among gamers in that I look for specific plants as cues to location). The colour is bang-on.
     
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    Thankyou , the mix is actually made of :

    Musa little bush
    Colocasia Taro bush
    Monstera Deliciosa Window leaf bush
    Small Banyan trees ( Bo tree type ) round leaves and single or double trunk
    Palm cocos nucifera bushes and trees
    hibiscus bush
    small leaves ground plant bush ( generic but tropical taken , no idea what kind is anyway )
    Small grass
    Scattered leaves ground
    for the trunk of the Banyans I used a decidual bark type and I added severall mush here and there plus greened it a little so to have a more "jungle in" look , I have also a moss free version eventually for more open areas and not dense vegetation ....

    I still need to make some more variations , some aereal roots , some ground roots , then the Remake of the Kapok etc ....
     
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    Very cool!
     
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    Thanks a lot ...

    Here is the new Tree version of the Kapok Tree .... what do you think ? this is the large version , there is also a Giant Version plus some smaller ones ...

    Any criticism is very much appreciated thankyou ....

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    Fantastic, and very much in keeping with the look of real Kapoks.
     
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    Those bushes are Beach Naupaka - Scaevoala sericea or possibly Scaevoala plumieri. It's a common beach weed, and photos should be fairly easy to source.
     

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