The mystery Oak

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  1. treeguy123

    treeguy123 Active Member

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    What kind of oak is this?
    I know it is in the Red Oak Family.
    The tree leafs have just little similarities to a Southern Red Oak but the bark and branch structure looks just like a Water or Willow Oak. I'm thinking it might be a hybrid? But I don't know for sure which two kind of trees it would be. Most of leafs on it look like a ghost or a cross shape and many have somewhat long leaf stems.

    Here are the leafs off of it:
    http://img235.imageshack.us/img235/635/oakzf6.jpg

    And the acorns that are around 1/2" long:
    http://img378.imageshack.us/img378/2254/jygn3.jpg


    All the Red Oaks that grow in the woods here in N. AL are:
    Southern Red Oak –- have these
    Willow oak -- Have a couple of these about 400 feet away
    Northern Red oak -- have these
    Black Oak -- have these
    Shumard Oak --have these
    Scarlet Oak -- might have these
    Cherrybark Oak -- never have seen one
    Water Oak-- several miles away

    Nine hybrids of southern red oak have been recognized (10). They are crosses with Q. ilicifolia, (Q. x caesariensis Moldenke); Q. imbricaria (Q. x anceps Palmer); Q. incana (Q. x subintegra Trel.); Q. laevis (Q. x blufftonensis Trel.); Q. laurifolia (Q. x beaumontiana Sarg.); Q. marilandica; Q. nigra (Q. x garlandensis Palmer); Q. phellos (Q. x ludoviciana Sarg.); Q. velutina (Q. x wildenowiana (Dippel) Zabel, Q. x pinetorum Moldenke).

    It's a strange tree knowing the names of about 90% of the trees in my woods, I have never seen a tree like this. I was thinking it might be a hybrid between a willow oak and a southern red oak show in this picture but I'm not sure:
    http://www.duke.edu/~cwcook/trees/qufaph3205.jpg
    http://www.duke.edu/~cwcook/trees/quph.html

    Thanks for any help.
     
  2. tipularia

    tipularia Well-Known Member 10 Years

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    I think you might have found your cherrybark oak. The leaves look just like the ones in an old tree book, Knowing Your Trees as well as images on the Internet. USDA site... Quercus pagoda. Synonyms: Q. falcata var. leucophylla, Q. falcata var. pagodifolia, Q pagodifolia.
     
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  4. tipularia

    tipularia Well-Known Member 10 Years

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    I just found a forum where they discuss tree identification, oak hybrids, etc. that you might want to post to. The National Arbor Day Foundation Message Board.
     
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    Thanks, maybe someone on there could help identify it.
     

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