I was given a Holm Oak, Quercus ilex (unaccountably absent from Dirr's otherwise invaluable DVD on Woodty Landscape Plants) a few years ago, and planted it in the garden. It began to get larger (c. 5 m.) and shaded some rhodo plantings and so when it became bent over by an unusual (for Vancouver) snowfall a few years ago, I sawed it off at the ground. Well, it is coming back again, and so I get the chance to reevaluate whether or not it is suitable in the garden. They are attractive, and can be trimmed as a hedge. I doubt any of our eastern members will be familiar with them as it is a Mediterranean tree unsuited to anything below about zone 7, I am told. I really like the tree, but it doesn grow to 20 m. and I have a well established Acer Koto No Ito not that far away. My question is whether is practical to grow it as a small tree, using regular prunings to keep it under control, or should I just give up and continue to eliminate it.