In The Garden: Which is this?

Discussion in 'Plants: Identification' started by i_am_jim, Apr 15, 2020.

  1. i_am_jim

    i_am_jim Active Member

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    I know a person who majored in botany and specialized in flowers. I take pictures of flowers but cannot identify them. She helps me with identification and said this flower is a Justicia spicigera. Someone who did not identify themselves changed my Wikipedia page to say it's a Justicia chrysostephana. I don't know enough to know if they're right or my flower lady is right. Can you help?
     
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    Margot Renowned Contributor 10 Years

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    How frustrating! When I tried googling to see what I could learn, I found this post from these forums in 2016. Hope you finally get an answer.

    In The Garden: - What is this flower?
     
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    Thanks. That was my post when I shot the picture in 2016 trying to confirm my flower lady's identification.
     
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    Ron B Paragon of Plants 10 Years

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    You will have to undertake your own review of the specific identifying characters of the two species involved.
     
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    Daniel Mosquin Paragon of Plants UBC Botanical Garden Forums Administrator Forums Moderator 10 Years

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    Where was it photographed? Wild or garden situation?
     
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    i_am_jim Active Member

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    Garden.
     
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    Sundrop Well-Known Member

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    I like your flower pictures i_am_jim
     
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    i_am_jim Active Member

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    Thank you Sundrop
     
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    i_am_jim Active Member

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    Silver surfer

    The references you give certainly show what you say. However here's a reverence that's different.
     
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    Silver surfer Generous Contributor 10 Years

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    The link above also says.....

    Synonyms: Justicia atramentaria Benth. (1840); Drejera willdenowiana Nees (1847); Justicia mohintli Moc. & Sessé ex Nees (1847); Sericographis moctli Nees (1847); Sericographis mohintli Nees (1847); Sericographis neglecta Oerst. (1855); Jacobinia mohintli Benth. & Hook. f. (1876); Jacobinia neglecta (Oerst.) A. Gray (1878); Jacobinia mohintli Hemsl. (1882); Jacobinia spicigera (Schltdl.) L.H.Bailey (1915); Jacobinia atramentaria (Benth.) S.F.Blake (1917); Jacobinia scarlatina S.F.Blake (1917); Justicia liebmanii V.A.W. Graham (1988); Justicia scarlatina (S.F. Blake) V.A.W. Graham (1988).

    Eeeck! Out of my depth.
    Back to your botanist friend.
     
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    Ron B Paragon of Plants 10 Years

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    What always matters significantly are specific relevant details in serious written descriptions, except when two kinds that are being compared actually look markedly different from one another. With it being kept in mind that a percentage of photos presented may be incorrectly identified. This was happening with print publications even before large numbers of images started being put on the web.
     
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