Ferns: Which ferns are these?

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  1. Georgia Strait

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    I am hoping that someone here will know which ferns these are in garden nr ocean at BC Coast

    Photo is yesterday

    The Sharpie felt pen is for scale

    There are two ferns

    They have leaves (fronds) in spring : summer / autumn only

    They are NOT sword fern I know that.

    Wendy has been observing ferns recently so maybe she knows

    The fern sample on red/ blue paper had small teeth in each tiny leaf

    The other fern sample - on left side of photo - each little leaf is very smooth around the edges
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    This garden also has
    Sword ferns (evergreen in winter) - native and growing naturally

    maiden hair fern (very distinct) - a purchased fern

    Deer fern - this one was purchased but they do grow nearby in an old forest park

    Thank you
     

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    wcutler Esteemed Contributor Forums Moderator VCBF Cherry Scout 10 Years

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    You know, I'm posting all these ferns because they all look alike to me, so I thought I would post some to get IDs confirmed and have something to reference later. Because no, I'm not remembering any of this stuff. Well, two of them I remember, but only one by name.

    I am reading some of the references that I listed under Ferns on the Plants Identification Online Resources page. The first item I came to made a point of noting something we don't know here - how the plant grows - is it leaves from a single stalk, like bracken fern, or each leaf from the ground, like lady fern and wood fern. Also what we don't have here is a habit photo - what shape is the plant and how big is it? It would be more clear to show top side and bottom side of the same plant as a pair, and a photo close up enough to see sori if there are some. And if there are not, is it because it is too late or are the sori on separate fertile fronds?

    I don't have much general sense to distinguish ferns, and you haven't provided a general sense anyway. But on this page: Fern Identification 101 — The Stanley Park Project - Open Learning in the Urban Forest, they mention spiny wood fern having a triangular shape: that's Dryopteris expansa, which isn't one I have posted.

    I will leave you to read some of the references to see if you notice anything that looks similar. I myself can't contribute more unless you can come up with more photos.
     
  3. Georgia Strait

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    Hello Wendy - i have decided (!) that one of these is a wood fern

    It spreads and dies off and grows back like it’s March in July and so on.

    I imagine wood fern is a broad category

    Then for the other one - I guess it might be cinnamon fern.

    I recall buying some way back 12 or more year ago so it might be what the 2nd fern is.
     
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    wcutler Esteemed Contributor Forums Moderator VCBF Cherry Scout 10 Years

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    Well, I can't disagree! You can post more photos!
     
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    Would you like closer or entire plant or stem or « au verso »

    Or all above - just let me know

    I will request pix
     
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    wcutler Esteemed Contributor Forums Moderator VCBF Cherry Scout 10 Years

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    All of the above. And they should be named somehow to make it clear which photos belong together.
     

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