I have six very tough and happy windmill palms growing on my property but I do love the look of the cycads I've seen in Florida and other southern places. How tender are these guys and is there a variety that can deal with the occasional frost we get in my Zone 9 location? My windmill palms all look the same except for height but are labelled both Trachycarpus fortunei and Chamerops excelsa (Rhapis e.) I have several other palms that I started from a bunch of seeds I picked up in mid to northern Florida under various palm-like plants, including a couple of cycads. Only a few germinated. However, they both look like regular seedling palms rather than cycads - but then I don't know what a cycad seedling looks like. Thanks.