what tree is this???

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  1. doodle

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    Can anyone help me identify this tree.

    It is growing in Surrey (B.C).
    It is about 8 ft tall.
    The owner says it has stunning flowers like are shaped like an artichoke. He couldnt remeber what color they were, or anything else... Photos were taken yesterday April 20 and blooms were just starting.

    ????? any help would be GREAT. Thanks sooooo much !!
     

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    jimmyq Well-Known Member 10 Years

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    I would suggest Horse Chestnut, Aesculus
     
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    chimera Well-Known Member 10 Years

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    Was thinking that also, maybe Aesculus x carnea 'Briotii' or A. pavia. If so, would likely be grafted.
     
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    Michael F Paragon of Plants Forums Moderator 10 Years

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    One of the purple leaf cultivars of Norway Maple (Acer platanoides).
     
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    jimmyq Well-Known Member 10 Years

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    I think Micheal F's idea is better than mine, I have to stop trying to ID plants after midnight! :)
     
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    Ummm.. okay- well...it's definatley not a Horse Chestnut! Are you guys serious? I have horse chestnuts in front of my house and they are in full leaf right now- then they only bloom in summer with these big ugly white fluffy cone thingies. This tree is blooming NOW and is a "showcase" tree. Does not produce nuts. There are two planted side by side infront of a beutifully landscaped home. They are about 10 years old, and only about 7 ft high.
    Any other guesses?
     
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    jimmyq Well-Known Member 10 Years

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    common trees that are opposite, paired buds are MADBuck.
    Maple, Ash, Dogwood and Buckeye.

    I believe it is a poorly pruned Maple, possibly the norway as Micheal F suggested.
     
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    chimera Well-Known Member 10 Years

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    "stunning flowers ... are shaped like an artichoke". Puzzling to me, but he didn't remember the flower colour either. A maple, not sure. A pic of the flower or expanded leaf may help. That is a nice pic of the leaf bud expanding, maybe a flower bud in there. Pic on right is Acer platanoides 'Crimson King' leafing out, which looks somewhat similar to your pic. Left Aesculus pavia with flower bud in upper left, and close up of flower bud center. Guess a white flowered chestnut flower bud would be green , more like an artichoke. Different kinds of horse chestnuts and varied flowering periods. Off topic - agree with jimmyq on the pruning. There are some people that travel around offering to prune your plants for free when they need cuttings and scions to use for propagating. Sometimes they leave a messed up plant.
     

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    chimera Well-Known Member 10 Years

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    If not anything already mentioned, could it be Aesculus indica?
     
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    Hi everyone- there were no leaves on the tree at all- that is why I didnt take a picture of them. I will be there again on friday- so i will post an update of that bud- hopefully it will be more open. No body would plant big trees like maples or chestnuts , like 3 1/2 feet apart from each other RIGHT infront of their house, would they?
     
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    Seems to be a remarkably good match for chimera's Acer platanoides 'Crimson King' at identical stage of leaf expansion - even down to the little whitish hair tufts all over it.
     
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    That one, the leaves don't open bright red.

    Oh yes they would!!! They'll discover their mistake in a few years!
     
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    Not really familiar with A. indica, but these "stunning flowers... shaped like an artichoke" has me baffled.
     
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    Michael F Paragon of Plants Forums Moderator 10 Years

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    True it isn't too clear what is meant! For starters, there's no flowers on the pics, only opening leaf buds. I'm working on the assumption the red young leaves were mistaken for flowers.
    Can't open it! Can you re-upload as a .jpg file?
     
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    Michael F, Yes, somewhat confusing. Didn't re-upload, a google image search of " Aesculus indica Sydney Pearce" should work for a pic. If it is A. platanoides, must say you've done well considering the description given.
     
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    "Crimson Sentry"poorly pruned (I have this maples in my garden)Crimson King is more purple, or again Royal Red good for maritime climate....alex
     
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    The gentleman who owns the house told me about the "stunning flowers- shaped like an artichoke." He went into great detal how the petals look like artichoke leaves....but he couldnt remember what color the blooms were. Pretty sure he would know the difference between a flower and a leaf bud....but you never know. I will post another picture on the weekend. Hopefully there has been some progress.
    Thanks to everyone for your input!
     
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    chimera Well-Known Member 10 Years

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    Can understand someone thinking of a similarity between the shape of the leaves of both plants.
     
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