Identification: What rhodo shrub blooming in November?

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  1. wcutler

    wcutler Esteemed Contributor Forums Moderator VCBF Cherry Scout 10 Years

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    I've been lectured before about expecting a rhododendron ID, but it doesn't keep me from trying. I have been seeing a lot of what seems to me to be the same shrub in bloom now, beginning of November, all around the West End and Kitsilano, which is why I think it might be something I could put a name to. No indumentum on the leaf backs.
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    It must be Rhododendron perversa although the same name could be given to any number of other perverse rhodos that compromise their spring/summer display by blooming out of season.
     
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    wcutler Esteemed Contributor Forums Moderator VCBF Cherry Scout 10 Years

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    Just confirming that you said this in jest?
     
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    Of course! Seeing as there's no such thing as R. perversa, I was trying to humourously point out that many rhodos 'perversely' bloom late in the year - usually just some of the trusses. This robs us of as full a display as we would have enjoyed if they waited until their normal bloom time. One such rhodo in my garden has no buds left for the spring. Sorry for the confusion.
     
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    wcutler Esteemed Contributor Forums Moderator VCBF Cherry Scout 10 Years

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    Thank you! I see that listed at GardenWorks, a BC Nursery:
    Scintillation Rhododendron (Rhododendron 'Scintillation') in Vancouver Victoria Burnaby Penticton Coquitlam British Columbia BC at GardenWorks
    It is also listed at a few Vancouver Island nurseries.
    It is supposed to be a mid-spring bloomer. GardenWorks calls it an inter-specific hybrid, but doesn't list the parents - ah, that's because they are unknown. It was hybridized by Charles Dexter. The Missouri Botanical Garden page at Rhododendron 'Scintillation' - Plant Finder guesses R. fortunei to be one likely parent. I'm glad to see it calls the colour "purplish-pink", as I saw some others today and thought they had a bit more purple than in my photos.
     
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    It is not uncommon for some spring flowering trees and shrubs that a few mature flower buds will break their dormancy in the fall. I have seen it several times on my fruit trees.
     
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    wcutler Esteemed Contributor Forums Moderator VCBF Cherry Scout 10 Years

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    I'm wondering now about the 'Scintillation' ID because of this part of the description on the Missouri Botanical Garden page:
    The flowers have flared greenish-yellow markings in the throat ​
    All the ones I have photographed have reddish-purple markings. Here are some photos from the West End, several shrubs at a condo building.
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    Maybe something else that's common locally?
     
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    Do an image search on the web, a percentage of examples with reddish flares come up along with those that have the more characteristic yellow ones - I checked for this before making the suggestion. However because there are so many hybrid rhododendrons it could just as well be another variety.

    chevalier felix de sauvage rhododendrons - Bing images
     
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  10. Douglas Justice

    Douglas Justice Active Member UBC Botanical Garden Forums Administrator Forums Moderator VCBF Cherry Scout Maple Society 10 Years

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    Yes, looks like 'Scintillation', which is commonly sold locally. 'Rosamundi' ('Rosa Mundi'?) and/or 'Christmas Cheer' (I have difficulty telling them apart) is/are also frequently in flower at this time. Yesterday I noticed a big block of R. 'Peter John Mezitt' in full flower (!) just off University Boulevard between Main Mall and West Mall on the UBC Vancouver campus. I was also surprised to see numerous flowers in the block of 'Hansel' at the corner of Stadium Road and Southwest Marine Drive (immediately opposite the UBC Botanical Garden entrance). Perhaps it was the sunny couple of weeks that followed the cool weather in late October.
     
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