What are these 2 plants?

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  1. cmyers83

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    lorax Rising Contributor 10 Years

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    2-1 appears to be Lilies of some sort, but without seeing flowers they could also be Allium.
    1-4 are bromeliads, probably Guzmania or Neoregelia.
     
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    2-1 - possibly Clivia?
     
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    Eric La Fountaine Contributor Forums Moderator 10 Years

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    2-1 looks like daylilies to me, but hard to be sure without flowers.
     
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    2-1. Need flowers to know for sure.
    Could be any of the above mentioned plants.
    Or maybe Agapanthus???
     
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    Puddleton Active Member 10 Years

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    Hi I suspect these are
    Pic 2-1 are Agapanthus species
    pic 1-4 are Alcanterea imperialis
    Cheers
     
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    thanrose Active Member 10 Years

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    cmyers, you have gotten some good general IDs. Both are pretty hard to identify definitively without the flowers, but someone seeing them in person could be much more sure.

    Here are my thoughts, relevant since I live in the region and lived in Orange and Seminole Counties for quite a long time. The photo tells me this is at a well maintained nursing home or rehab.

    Agapanthus is most likely for the more tender leaved bulb plant, the first picture. Lots of tropical and subtropical bulbs and rhizomes in the area, but Agapanthus fits the pattern of growth, availability and relative cost in the area, desirable low toxicity, and leaf size and shape. Plus the floral display would be typical for a planting at a facility maintained this well. I could give reasons why other suggestions are not likely based on what I know of this region. Some suggestions proffered do grow well here, though.

    I'd definitely lean toward Neoregelia spp for the bromeliad. My own Neoregelia spectablilis (which this isn't!) came from a yard sale in Apopka. The beautiful and new to me Alcantarea imperialis is just not something I've seen, but I have seen and grown a few other common broms in the area. The landscaper would have had to use something somewhat common and known to grow well here, as well as being at an attractive cost.
     
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    I should have been more specific as to where I took the pictures and such. I took them at Walt Disney World.
     
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    Oh-ho! Yeah, major distinction. What appears to be a walker in the brom photo is probably a steel railing.

    Disney would have few constraints on keeping costs down the way a rehab would. Disney properties also use plants from all over the world so the broms could be any cost from anywhere. Still subtropical. DisneyWorld is Zone 9b.

    I should have asked if you have a particular reason you want to know. If you like the looks of them, there are plenty of suitable plants that are similar.

    It's possible you could get the answer from someone in Horticulture at the Disney facility where you saw them. Depending where in west Orange County you live, you most likely have some neighbors that work there.

    Understand that Disney goes to great pains to make everything look effortless and near perfect. If a leaf has an obvious flaw or tear it will be trimmed off; if a plant starts to fade it will be removed. They have vast nurseries for rehabilitation of wayward plants. Something else people may not realize: if a plant is deemed harmful, such as the razor or sawtoothed edge on some bromeliads, Disney will probably not plant it. Beautiful roses there, but few thorns, and no problematic scent.

    Knowing what I know about Disney and their avoidance of anything that might offend or injure guests, Neoregelia spp are mostly out due to sharp leaf edges, while Alcantarea spp remains a possible ID since they typically don't have sharp edges.

    Still betting on Agapanthus spp though. Disney would like the blooms because they are showy en masse and attractive close up, long lasting, no strong scent, and the main pest in our area would be lubbers (easily controlled).
     
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