Two hedge shrubs in Honolulu

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  1. wcutler

    wcutler Paragon of Plants Forums Moderator VCBF Cherry Scout 10 Years

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    These shrubs are on private properties in Honolulu. I did not find these on pages of native hedging plants in Hawaii, and the first one is widely planted, so they're likely non-native landscape material.

    Shrub 1: Alternate pinnately compound soft shiny leaves, unlobed, entire margins, no hairs, terminal inflorescences. I think that the bits that look like flower buds must be fruits. It appears that the fruits just go dark green when ripe. I did not see a single open flower, but maybe those bud-looking things are flowers and that's what they do?
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    Shrub 2: Droopy branches, leaves whorled, 3-lobed at the tips, tiny (maybe 1cm) white flowers seem to have 4, 5 or 6 petals, terminal inflorescences, fruits so far look like they'll be orange. Small sparse hairs on everything.
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    wcutler Paragon of Plants Forums Moderator VCBF Cherry Scout 10 Years

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    Thank you. I was going to say that the fruits looked like teeny little limes, but then I decided not to, as it was just the texture that reminded me of limes. But it turns out they're Rutaceae, in the citrus family. I did see Murraya listed on the shrubs pages, but on my laptop, the photos on those pages and at the top of the search didn't seem like leaves on this plant at all, but I see one farther down that does. From the google images, it looks like the fruits will go red. And the bud-looking things are flower buds - I see a photo of one starting to open.

    @Silver surfer, it looks like you started a reply for 2?
     
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    I found Murraya paniculata flowers today, on a hedge outside the Washington Place building in downtown Honolulu. They're very fragrant. A passerby from Australia told me she has them in her yard at home, and finds the odor of the spent flowers so unpleasant that she is going to remove the plants.
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    2. Thought I knew it...but not sure.
    Please can you go back and crush a leaf to see if it has any scent...citrus maybe?
     
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    Not citrus.
    I find the scent to be spicy fragrant and overpowering when there are many flowers in bloom.
     
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    I went back today. I agree not citrus. No citrus smell at all. I opened one green fruit - it was juicy and had a single pit in the centre. I actually got the photo in focus, but it doesn't look like anything recognizable. The fruits have shiny smooth thin skins. All the surfaces on the rest of the plant are rough - the hairs aren't prickly, but they're stiff. [Edited] - The flowers I saw today had five petals.
     
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    wcutler Paragon of Plants Forums Moderator VCBF Cherry Scout 10 Years

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    That's in the Vancouver area? I'm not familiar with it at all.
     
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    Yes, as an indoor plant. The spent flowers make a real mess to clean up.
     
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    wcutler Paragon of Plants Forums Moderator VCBF Cherry Scout 10 Years

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    I've seen Shrub2 in two more locations. Here it is in another yard showing a prostrate habit.
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    And here as a stand-alone shrub
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    I have an answer on Shrub 2, from Forest and Kim Starr on flickr:
    Carmona retusa (Fukien tea). Boraginaceae.
    Planted and spreading in and near old neighborhoods.
    Used medicinally and for bonsai.​
     

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