Hello Forum Members, I have had to close two threads that were taken over by political rants today. As I stated in closing them, I feel the UBCBG forums have a roll to play in these discussions as they relate to plants/agriculture/environment, but this type of discussion should take place in the Conversation and Chat forum and not overtake threads started in other forums. Please keep discussions positive, scientific and on topic. I realize many of us are frustrated by the current political environment and the state of the biosphere, but please try to limit such conversation to the Conversations and Chat forum and keep the conversation focussed on issues concerning how these political/social problems/issues affect or are affected by gardeners/plant researchers/botanists/ecologists, etc. I see more interest in these topics on the forums and I applaud people being concerned and working to learn/educate and find solutions to the great environmental problems facing us today. I feel the UBCBG forums have a definite roll to play here as we are a community of concerned and knowledgeable individuals. However we owe it to our community to be positive and open to solutions. Ranting and personal attacks are not helpful and not welcome on this forum.