Three Trees for ID

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  1. lorax

    lorax Rising Contributor 10 Years

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    (hah, say that title three times fast....)

    The first one is a Palm tree, I know that much. They're everywhere here.
    The second looked and smelled like a Pine, but I've been fooled by Casuarina before.
    The third I initially thought was a Ceibo, but it had flowers like tulips, which is not a Ceibo-type feature.

    Help!
     

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    David in L A Active Member 10 Years

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    Spathodea campanulata for #3?
     
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    lorax Rising Contributor 10 Years

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    You know, I was just looking at that on the GIS, and I think that's it.
     
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    Michael F Paragon of Plants Forums Moderator 10 Years

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    #2 is a pine, but too distant to see enough detail to identify to species. Can you get some close-ups, of:
    1 Shoot with foliage.
    2 A cluster of needles, showing the number of needles per cluster, and preferably with a 30cm ruler for measurement.
    3 A mature cone, if any present (this is the most useful of all!).
    4 The bark on the lower trunk.
     
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    lorax Rising Contributor 10 Years

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    I'll have to go back to the Fundacion Guayasamin - it's the tree where the artist's ashes are buried. At least it's in the same city.... I'll see what I can do.
     
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    Interesting fruits on the palm, haven't noticed clusters of that shape before.
     
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    lorax Rising Contributor 10 Years

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    It might be an endemic.
     
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    Weekend Gardener Active Member 10 Years

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    I don't know much about palms. In my simple way of thinking, I thought it looked like a date palm, with male inflorescences.
     
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    Hi there, I´m from Ecuador also, I just registered for this forum.
    About the pine it looks like Pinus patula, but I´m not sure, I know that Pinus pseudostrobus may be present in Quito as well. I don´t remember the name of the palm, but I´m going to check some of my books for information, and I have no Idea about number 3.

    best regards,

    Napo
     
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    Michael F Paragon of Plants Forums Moderator 10 Years

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    The foliage doesn't droop enough for P. patula.
    P. pseudostrobus is certainly possible, but so are several others.
     
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    lorax Rising Contributor 10 Years

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    Gracis, Napo, y bienvenidas! - if you could tell me which books, then I could get them as well and save the poor folks here on the forum some trouble...

    That palm is growing in Quito, if I recall correctly in the ground of the Hotel Quito, although I've seen them all over the city. There are several in the Plaza Grande.
     
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    Ron B Paragon of Plants 10 Years

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    Any botanical gardens or other labeled collections around there?
     
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    Quito Botanical Gardens, but it doesn't have those palms. Equally, due to the sheer size of the Catholic Univeristy Herbarium I could spend years looking at the palms and never find it. The palm in question is as common as dirt in the regular greenspaces, though, and when I ask people they just look at it and say "Palm tree."
     
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    #1 Parajubaea sp.?
     
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    Ron B Paragon of Plants 10 Years

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    How great that you have that herbarium available to you.
     
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    lorax Rising Contributor 10 Years

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    You know, could very well be a Quito palm. I recognise the square in that picture.

    Thank you!!!
     
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    lorax Rising Contributor 10 Years

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    And Ron - I'd move into the herbarium if I could. But I have a day job.
     
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    Hey Lorax,

    I think that is a square of Quito indeed.

    I will let you know as soon as I find the books I mentioned previously, It seems that I have lend them because I haven´t found them. One is something like Biodiversidad del Ecuador or so, but I don´t remember anything else, It´s been a while since I read those.... sorry
     
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    It's something from the Centro Historico in the 1950s or 60s, I'm thinking near the Panecillo end of Calle Guayaquil. I've been there recently, and really only the shape of the busses has changed. I just can't recall which square it is.

    I'll be on the lookout for Biodiversidad del Ecuador; I just picked up Plantas Utiles del Ecuador, and it's fantastic, although I'm going to approach them about putting together a photographic field guide to accompany it.
     
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    Any options on revisiting that pine for more pics, or is it too far away?
     
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    It's at the other end of the valley from me, in a barrio I rarely visit ($10 cab ride), but I think I've seen some of the same species growing closer to me - I may be able get photos and cones for these.
     

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