Speckled berry.

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  1. Silver surfer

    Silver surfer Generous Contributor 10 Years

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    What is the genus and species of this plant please?
     

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    OK..never one to be afraid of being wrong in public...I'll bite.
    Cotoneaster - species? No idea - there are lots of them.

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    I was getting worried that no one was going to have a go! Thank you for trying glass brain, but no, it is not Cotoneaster.
     
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    Is it some sort of Vaccinium?
    Not seen speckled berries before. Is that normal or has it a virus?
     
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    My guess - Gaultheria miqueliana or related ??

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    Hi Luke, sorry, it is not a Vaccinium. To the best of my knowledge the plant does not have a virus. Other pics on the net look just like ours.
    So very sorry that the weather is so very wet this week for Westonbirts Festival of the Wood.

    http://www.forestry.gov.uk/forestry/infd-6xclux
     
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    Sorry BrianO , thank you for having a guess, but no it is not Gaultheria miqueliana, or any other Gaultheria.
    Young Luddite!!!!
     
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    Hmmm,

    I am suspicious that you have cropped the photo so we cannot see the leaves or habit...too much of a clue ? Also a suggestion perhaps in the question that it comes from quite a large common genus?

    Second guess, a fruit that I have never seen...Elaeagnus umbellata..


    If not...I admit defeat ....or await a really really good clue !!

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    Yes, the photo has been cropped to hide the leaves.
    Yes, it does come from a large common genus.
    However,it is not an Elaeagnus. Sorry Brian!
     
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    Hm...
    Caprifoliaceae? (Lonicera?)
     
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    Yes, to Caprifoliaceae.
    No, to Lonicera. Sorry Lila.
     
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    Michael F Paragon of Plants Forums Moderator 10 Years

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    Now that we have the family . . . Symphoricarpos of some sort?
     
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    Sorry Michael, not Symphoricarpos.
     
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    Sorry, that link is from Brummitt's 1992 Vascular Plant Families and Genera, before the genus transfers were made in 2001 ;-)
     
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    Viburnum opulus - The Guelder Rose?

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    Oops...Sorry my Botany is old. That's moved - I may live long enough to see it moved back of course.

    gb.
     
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    Yuhuhu! So it's really in the Caprifoliaceae!!! :)
    (And not a Buxus with hot-glued plastic berries... :)))
     
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    Right! First of all I have to grovel to you all!!! On clicking to the link above that Michael provided, I had 6 options listed. I confess I did not read each one, instead opting for a name I knew " KEW". Today, after Michael said it was a 1992 list, I went back and checked ......USDA Germplasm Resources Information Networks (GRIN)
    This places my berries in ADOXACEAE. "Also sometimes placed in CAPRIFOLIACEAE" Quote!!!!! The new RHS Plantfinder 2008-2009 still lists it as Caprifoliaceae.
    Confused @ Machen.!!!!!

    So Folks take your pick. I will now go back to your new suggestions.
     
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    glass brain, No it is not Viburnum opulus. However you are very warm.

    Lila, I can guarantee they are not hot glued on to Buxus!

    Please see post above to "Clarify ". Joke lol. Thought a new pic might help!
     

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    So a species of Viburnum . . .
     
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    Yes, it is a Viburnum. Now....which one is it?
     

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    First clue. This Viburnum was discovered in Formosa, now Taiwan, before 1930
     

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