South Cambie

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  1. Lisa L

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    and last at the RCMP old headquarters. 'Jo-Nioi' which means supreme scent.......but once again i did not get a lot of scent. The bees must have got the scent as it was buzzing with bee activity, very noisy! The bracteoles (leafy bit at base of the flower stems) is suppose to be bristled. single 5 petals pure white flowers. Sometimes there is an staminoide (extra petal ) in the centre of the flower, and I think in 2 of the photos you can see that. Sorry Anne I was showing my daughter the tree so she could appreciate the scent, but neither of us got the 'supreme scent'. Maybe because it was in the shade?? multi tree pic the 'Jo-Nioi" is on the right side, West.
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    I think the years of active duty at police headquarters must have worn it down because this Jo-nioi is neither as robust nor as scentful as VanDusen's tree. I've forgotten where, but I came across one translation of its name as Supreme Incense, which sounds much weightier than just Scent.
     
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    wcutler Esteemed Contributor Forums Moderator VCBF Cherry Scout 10 Years

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    On 'Takasago', fuzzy everything. That's a bit of an exaggeration - not major fuzz, but hairs on everything, except maybe the petals. Your third photo shows that.
     
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    When I was taking my photos almost a week ago at this spot, I was wondering why the 'Takasago' was so fragrant, then figured out that I was smelling the 'Jo-nioi' from a few meters away.
     
  5. Anne Eng

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    Choshu-hizakura on W.27th, east of Ash, is done for the season at April 28, 2020.
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    Choshu-hizakura at Montgomery Park (W. 43rd, west of Oak) is also done for the season at April 28, 2020. See #149
     
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    This is the mystery tree on the west side of Tupper, north of W.24th that has been stumping us for years. (see Identification: - Small single pink blossoms, upright tree, mid-season - Star Cherry | UBC Botanical Garden Forums) Here is what it looks like on April 1, 2021.
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    I went to check on it after visiting the Star Cherry trees in Dunbar neighbourhood and the Vancouver Museum.

    Here are my photos of Dunbar's Star Cherry at W. 37th and Collingwood on April, 1, 2021.
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    Here are my photos of the Star Cherry at the Museum on April 1, 2021.
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    Can there be any doubt that South Cambie's cherry tree at Tupper and W. 24th is a Star Cherry?
     

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    Douglas Justice has told me that he's convinced. Good job, Anne. I note that you practically covered the entire city today to gather your evidence.
     
  8. Anne Eng

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    The Somei-Yoshino trees lining the path through Douglas Park (Willow, W. 20th to W.22nd) are in full bloom at April 3, 2021.

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    Here are the Douglas Park 'Somei-yoshino' trees today. This is full full bloom. :) Only three days after Anne's photos. I've included a good trunk twisting up to the right photo.
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    More by good luck than good management, I remembered (!) that my favourite 'Akebono' is right nearby on 21st, so I stopped by to visit.
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    I also checked out the 'Choshu-hizakura' on 27th - it's still there, but not nearly in bloom yet.

    One block over, on 28th, are two 'Accolade' that appear to not be grafted. There is sucker growth on one that is 'Accolade'.
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    Here are the 'Somei-yoshino' trees on the Cambie median from 39th to 41st.
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    Even the FedEx van looks good amongst all that beauty Wendy.
     
  11. Lisa L

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    RCMP headquarters- Takasago looking even worse for wear than last year. there was one strong branch coming out across the sidewalk beyond the lamp post but the other side of the poor tree was not doing very well. I note there is a development permit up for the "heather lands" (jan 2021) so not sure the fate of these 3 different Japanese cherry trees on the far north side on the old RCMP building. The view towards the mountains was wonderful, again with the fresh snow. Covid testing site across the street was not looking so busy, which I hope is a good sign!
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    is this Takasago or could it be Ito-kukuri ?. or is that a phyliod pistal and could it then be Ichiyo....... it is sparsely branched, short flower spurs if Ito-kukuri should have pink veins in petals? but too far away to see that....or is it. One shot shows perhaps that characteristic. Short stalked and tight clusters but all 3 have that. To me it seems to be too soft of a soft pink in bud to be Takasago, but the one at RCMP isn't all that dark pink in bud either. It is not robust, so perhaps not an Ichiyo. Is there an extra sepal? characteristic of Takasago? maybe ,but don't have a full round of sepals to do an actual count......my best guess is ?Ito-kukuri. This is on the se corner of ash at 37th.
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    Can that ugly tree be an Ito-kukuri? It looks representative of Douglas Justice's assessment of Takasago: horrible tree, beautiful blossoms. Everything went into the flower, so nothing was left for the tree.
     
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    LOL, but what about that veining that is noticeable in pic 6.....and the pic in Douglas's book pg 64 of Ito-kukuri, isn't exactly a beautiful shaped tree! Flowers yes, branching pattern, not so much.
     
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    I love it when I get easier questions than the ones I'm getting in Burnaby. It's not time for 'Ichiyo'; 'Ito-kukuri' does not have hairs on the pedicels and this has hairs; therefore, 'Takasago'. And besides, what Anne said.
    Trying to figure something out from the flowers is much harder than when you can use a hairs/no hairs distinction. And a generally beautiful tree ('Ichiyo')/all those descriptive words Anne used distinction. This is quite a typical 'Takasago' around here. There are, however, a few quite nice ones somewhere. Look for hairy new leaves and pedicels for 'Takasago'. Also bronze new leaves. 'Ito-kukuri' , 'Mikuruma-gaeshi', 'Yokihi' and 'Ichiyo' have green new leaves.
     
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    wcutler Esteemed Contributor Forums Moderator VCBF Cherry Scout 10 Years

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    I stand by my answer just above, that I posted before seeing your question. I understand that this has no new leaves, so you don't get help from that, but the hairy pedicels are enough to distinguish this.
     
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    I had to blow photo #6 up to full-page-size to see the faint purplish lines on the back of the petals. Is it not enough that Takasago has stripped its tree of beauty and goodness, must it also strip our confidence? Lisa, where is this soul-destroying anomaly?
     
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    SE corner of ash and 37th. on Ash, but along 37th bike route so we passed it today on our bike ride. I grabbed onto the veining when I actually saw it there in the photo.....didn't really notice the hairy bits, but they are there too.... :) cherries!! Can you take a look at another one we saw today in the kits thread? not sure if somei or akebono.... Thanks L
     
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    As soon as you mentioned the location, I knew it was those Takasago runts on Ash Street. You snapped the only one on the east side, but if you looked across the street, you would have seen the rest of them running along the west side of Ash, from W. 37th down to W. 41st. I tracked down your tree and pinched a blossom to check on those "veins" that's keeping you sleepless.
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    There are faint lines on both the front and the back of the petals—would they be considered veins? The extra sepal and the bunching of the flowers (just starting to open) are the hallmarks of Takasago, so you have to let go of Ito-kukuri and accept the unlovely runt.
     
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    In a couple of days, you might be able to see 'Yokihi' in bloom at 48th and Columbia.
     
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    After getting its trim, the Choshu-hizakura on north side of W. 27th (between Ash and Cambie) has assumed a more vase-like shape. In full bloom at April 14, 2021 (almost a week behind the tree in Arbutus Ridge).
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    The dominating Yae-beni-shidare on the south side of W. 24th, between Laurel and Willow, is in full bloom at April 16, 2021.
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    Agree it is dominating, but a WOW. Great photos Anne.
     
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    A row of Avium 'Plena' are going to start bloom on heather street from 37th to 41th.

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    A row of UKon are in full bloom on Baillie street from 37th to 39th .

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