In The Garden: Shrub with pink tubular flowers

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  1. Joseph Lin

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    Shrub with pink tubular flowers
     

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    Linnaea amabilis, formerly Kolkwitzia amabilis. Beautybush.
     
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    Gorgeous. Nice pictures too. Thanks for posting them!
     
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    Kolkwitzia amabilis is an accepted name on theplantlist. And they do not indicate a synonym.....go figure.

    Susan Dunlap
    www.findplants.net
     
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    Eric La Fountaine Contributor Forums Moderator 10 Years

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    Flora of China and GRIN still use Kolkwitzia as well. We'll have to look at the paper that introduces the changes--Christenhusz MJM. 2013. Twins are not alone: a recircumscription of Linnaea (Caprifoliaceae). Phytotaxa125 (1): 25–32.
     
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    Thanks for all the comments.
    This mature and beautiful shrub is located at the south side of West 37 Ave between Kersland Dr. and Alberta St.
    at SW corner of Queen Elizabeth Park, map: https://goo.gl/maps/Dv16w
     
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    What do you look at to distinguish Kolkwitzia/Linnea from Weigela, for instance, this Weigela hortensis photo from http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Weigela_hortensis_10.JPG (Wikimedia Commons, author Qwert1234)? I'm seeing some Kolkwitzia with little or no throat markings, some Weigela with throat markings. The fuzz around the (are they bracts or bud scales, or where is that coming from?) on the Kolkwitzia, does that remain as an identifying feature?
     

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    Size?
    for Kolwitzia we have
    Type: shrub
    Forms: arching, erect
    Leaves deciduous
    Max height: 11.5 feet
    Max width: 11.5 feet

    Weigelia (japonica in this case) we have:
    Type: shrub
    Forms: clumping, erect
    Leaves deciduous
    Max height: 16.4 feet
    Max width: 16.4 feet
     
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    Kolkwitzia/Linnea ....

    The hairs behind the petals are what I look for.
    Even after the petals have fallen they still remain.
    See link.



    http://www.eggert-baumschulen.de/im...684_4_Kolkwitzia-amabilis-Perlmuttstrauch.JPG

    http://www.robsplants.com/images/portrait/KolkwitziaAmabilis040531.jpg

    The sepals that remain remind me of Abelia after petal drop.


    http://www.lejardinetdesigns.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/10/abelia-sepals.jpg

    Weigela have neither of these features.

    http://www.newplantsandflowers.com/wp-content/uploads/Weigela-´Wings-of-fire´-flower.jpg

    Weigela flowers have prominent stigma./female bits.

    https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=W...&sa=X&ei=4w5VVdyGNYXkUd3AgcAI&ved=0CAYQ_AUoAQ
     
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    Sadly none of the above would help me to tell them apart!

    In UK we spell it Weigela.

    https://www.rhs.org.uk/plants/search-results?form-mode=false&query=weigela

    http://www.efloras.org/florataxon.aspx?flora_id=2&taxon_id=134805
     
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    So do we, but I have most often heard it pronounced wih-GEE-lee-uh. Funny enough, this Wiktionary page says for weigelia:
    So that would be the dated form already in 1913. Searching on that spelling, I'm getting mostly French pages and a Dutch page.

    As for pronunciation,
    yourdictionary.com page for Weigela shows [wī jēlə, -gē-] for the pronunciation, with the audio pronunciation using the second form, so something like why-GHEE-la (and says weigelia is a variant spelling).

    http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/weigela
    gives [wahy-gee-luh, -jee-, wahy-guh-luh, with the audio pronouncing according to the first option

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Weigela gives /wˈlə/, accent on the first syllable, with the first syllable long i as in bide, next syllable j as in jam, last vowel as the a in about.

    That would be about all the possibilities, with some source supporting any option.

    Thanks for the replies.
     
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    In general larger Kolkwitzia seen here greatly surpass any Weigela in size. Latter genus commemorates Joseph Weigel, therefore I tend to assume pronunciations approximating WEI-gel-a - assuming Weigel is spoken something like VAY-gel - are more apt but in casual conversation use wye-GEE-la is that version seems to be prevalent. And as Stearn says in Botanical Latin, probably the main thing is that everyone involved knows what is being talked about. To this I would add that if you start using pronunciations not familiar to your audience of the moment this becomes a distraction.
     
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    I'm adding two photos of the fuzzy stems on a Kolkwitzia at QE Park. I'm so happy to be able to recognize these now. While I was chatting with a friend at the info desk at VanDusen yesterday, someone came over with a photo of Weigela for ID and I was able to say what it was and point to a nearby Kolkwitzia for comparison.
     
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