Saving an old tree that has to be moved

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  1. koiboy

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    Hi all. My family has a 20 year old green that needs to be moved, but we're hoping we can save it. Any advice on how to prep it and dig it up without killing it? Is it even possible? I sure would like to keep it alive.
     
  2. Dave-Florida

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    Japanese maple? They're quite transplantable. I'd check standard methods for larger trees. If at all possible, start with root pruning, then some time later dig the tree. A professional with a tree spade can probably do the job, if that's within your budget.

    The most prominent maple in Portland, Oregon's Japanese Garden was, if my memory's correct, from a home where the tree had blocked much of the driveway. The owners, recognizing that the house would eventually have to be sold and that a new owner would almost certainly cut the tree, offered it to the Garden.
     
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    Yes, it is a maple. I think a professional is out of the question, but I intend to give it a shot. So you're suggesting that I prune the root structure in the first few layers of dirt, and then let the tree sit for a few days (week maybe), then go back to finish the job? Any specifics would be great. A number of years ago I tried to move an old bloodgood and it didn't make it. But in that instance I dug it up all at once.
     
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    I'm not expert on tree moving, so I'd suggest looking for advice (state agricultural extension services tend to have how-to-do-it advice on nearly everything). Root pruning would ideally be done well before moving the tree, probably several months.

    It's also best to move any plant during cool weather.
     
  5. maf

    maf Generous Contributor Maple Society 10 Years

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    If you are going to cut the roots you are best doing it 12 months in advance of replanting, and inserting a root barrier so that the new roots stay within the rootball area. It sounds like this may be outside of your timescale.

    How big is the tree - height, spread, trunk diameter? For a twenty year old Japanese maple, depending on variety, you may not be able to physically manhandle a large enough rootball with soil intact. The roots are more important to keep than the soil, one option when the tree is dormant would be to semi-bareroot it. Retain as many of the major roots undamaged as you can, digging them out individually as they fan out from the base of the maple. The very fine feeding roots are of little importance during the dormant season, but the larger roots contain the store of energy for next season's growth - the more you can save the better. Have a wide enough planting hole ready prepared, and, as it is likely to be a long process, you might need a spray bottle to mist the exposed roots occasionally. You will need to stake the tree (low) when you replant it.

    It would be a lot of work for a large Japanese maple (and impossible if it is too large and unwieldy) but, other than getting professionals in with mechanical lifting equipment etc, I don't see too many other options. Good luck.
     
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    whis4ey Well-Known Member 10 Years

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    I don't think you will be able to manage such a large tree without professional help, in view of the size and weight of the rootball which will be necessary to move
    The normal way to move such a large established tree is to dig a trench around the tree about a year in advance (severing the roots and preventing them from growing outwards again) and then lifting the whole rootball with a suitable mechanical digger. As I say, I think it is beyond your scope to do it, and that your tree will not survive if you try
    Sorry for the unwelcome opinion :(
     
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    That's ok. I was looking for advice and opinions and I appreciate yours too!
     
  8. mr.shep

    mr.shep Well-Known Member 10 Years

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    What methods we may recommend or advise
    others to do may not be what we end up doing
    when we ourselves are presented with a similar
    dilemma.

    Moving a mature sized Maple is not such a big
    deal if and when we take into account what we
    are up against in the actual move and what we
    may have to do before and after the tree is
    transplanted. A simple let's dig it out of the
    ground, free it and move it to a new location
    is derelict in our planning for such a mature
    tree.

    Taking a tree with us to a new location or to
    another city can be done but thought preparation
    for both locations is a requirement. When do
    we want to move the tree? The best time to
    move a Maple is when it is dormant. Think of
    when the best times are to bump Maples in
    containers up to a larger sized can and then
    realize these are also good times to transplant
    Maples as well. Winter and Spring are the
    preferred times to transplant Maples. Generally
    we do not move a Maple from a one gallon or
    a two gallon size up to a five gallon around
    here during the Summer months but we can
    do it and be successful at it if we feel we need
    to or have to.

    Millet gave a real good account a while back
    of what to do for tree-root preparation in the
    UBC Citrus forum in advance of the transplant
    that can be applied to larger sized Maples.

    A few particulars may be needed to know
    before we can go into more specifics later
    as to what is going on with the tree now
    such as an abundance of surface roots,
    branch dieback issues and where it is to
    go next. Seeking out a professional or
    two in the business of moving large trees
    and a qualified arborist should be required
    if you have not had success in the past
    transplanting trees. The best advice I
    can give is that if you are afraid of losing
    the tree don't dig it out of the ground. If
    you are not overly hesitant or fearful of it
    then by all means, contact your nearest
    Cooperative Extension office and ask
    them to come out and look at your tree
    and give you some ideas as to what they
    recommend to do for the tree preparation
    (root prep, lift prep, move prep and transplant
    prep) [and if it were me doing it for one of
    my trees - prune prep also after or right
    before the transplant] for both locations.

    Jim
     

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