Appreciation: Roses

ROSES

All the postings in this thread dated September 24, 2020 and earlier were originally posted in the Out and About thread. I have copied them here because I want to be able to browse what I've posted, and it's not possible in that thread. I have deleted anything here that was not about roses. I left the original postings where they were in order to avoid messing up any links to previous postings in that thread.

The Stanley Park Rose Garden is looking excellent now - everything seems to be open.


This is Rosa 'Ballerina', a Musk rose.


Speaking of single-flowered roses, here are two from the street outside the Southlands Nursery. Mr. Southlands (Thomas Hobbs) told me the names, and he called the first one Rosa gentiliana. The page at https://www.trevorwhiteroses.co.uk/shop/rambling-roses/rosa-gentiliana says Rosa gentiliana a.k.a Rosa polyantha 'Grandiflora'.
Rosa gentiliana - Wikispecies gives as homotypic Rosa multiflora var. gentiliana, says R. gentiliana is "[a] dubious name and not fully understood. Plants in cultivation under this name belong to the cultivar 'Polyantha Grandiflora', and does not fit the original description. The original description mention semidouble flowers, but when Léveille (1818) publish an illustration 10 years later, the flowers are single." These flowers were around 6 cm in diameter.


Around the corner on 49th is Rosa filipes 'Kiftsgate', with smaller flowers, around 4 cm in diameter.


Here is a very different rose, and I don't remember where I came up with the name; I think I was told it. The flowers don't really interest me much, but I'm in love with the shiny red-margined leaves. So I think this is Rosa 'MEIkrotal', sold under the trade name Scarlet Meidiland. These are in front of an apartment building across from English Bay, near Stanley Park. (Edited: See posting #13 in this thread)

 

I am so far behind, and I've just imagined doing postings. I told Stanley Park Rose Garden gardener Frankie that I posted her photo last month, and it doesn't even seem to be true, so here is the Allium giganteum bed she was working on on June 19!


Rosa 'Garden Delight' delighted me that day, when it was one of the few roses in bloom.


I saw Frankie again today, and all her alliums have finished blooming and have been topped. I didn't even ask her what she was tending there now. :(


I did post something from the Rose Garden last week. It still looks excellent today, with flowers on everything.


Today's picks were 'South Africa'


and Rosa 'About Face'.

 

I have just done four separate postings on shrubs on Rose Garden Lane, so of course, I was at the Rose Garden. I picked just one to post, this Rosa 'Winter Sun', in the Lower Rose Garden this time.


Then I saw this group of what seemed like would be called blue roses. The colour varied from grey to pale lavender, but there was hardly any colour variation on a single flower. Really, I favour roses that do have colour that varies from new to old petals, but this was strange enough that I had to capture it. I did not find a tag or label. I think the cultivar might be 'Blue Moon' - the red buds and leaf margins seem to be wrong for 'Blue Bajou'. I didn't find any other blue rose names. I think the photo colour here is a little too pink.

Edited August 29, 2020 - There was a label today - Poseidon, a Floribunda rose. That would be Poseidon™ ('KORfriedhar')

 

I was going to post this rose with single red flowers climbing up a Quercus robur along Ceperley Meadow in Stanley Park and ask if the wiggley flowers were its actual nature or if it was diseased. But I see some photos of Rosa 'Dortmund' that look just like this, and from the Stanley Park Rose Garden, so it's even possible that this is the ID. This cultivar, however, is supposed to top out at three metres, and this is maybe twice that high. Maybe it's just very happy?
[Edited June 29, 2021: Head Gardener Dave told me this is called R. 'American Pillar'. I posted some more photos at Appreciation: - Roses.

 

Since I was in the rose garden, here is a purple rose, called Rosa 'Rhapsody in Blue'.

and one not purple - Rosa 'Easy Does It'.


It's still a riot of colour over there.

 

Today's rose is Rosa 'Lady Elise May', a shrub rose.

 

So there I was in the rose garden, and I'm sorry, I have posted this first rose before, but I couldn't help myself, here it is again, a lot more photos of it. Rosa 'About Face'. It's in at least two beds, still looking excellent.


I guess as an antidote to the above rose, I was attracted to this near-blue Rosa 'La Petite Prince'. The name is a little annoying to anyone who knows French, and this seems to have the unfortunate trait that the outer petals start to senesce before the rest of the flower opens, so hardly any of the flowers really ever look excellent at their peak bloom. Still, it has some nice subtle colour variations. And it's restful to look at.

 

Today's rose is a hybrid tea - Rosa 'Sweet Fragrance', which is aptly named.

 

Many of the roses are still looking good.
Here is Rosa 'Take it Easy', a shrub rose. I don't usually go for red roses, but this has some interesting colouring happening in the centres.


And Rosa 'KORfocgri' (the sign says Summer Sun, the trademark name), a floribunda rose, which has shiny leaves that open a dark wine colour and then the green takes over but leaving some of the wine colour on the leaf margins. I posted another rose that does that in posting #52, calling it Rosa 'MEIkrotal', sold under the trade name Scarlet Meidiland (but I think I came up with that name myself, so who knows). Anyway, this one has great colour variations in the flowers and wonderful leaves. I think both these roses were fragrant.

 

Today's rose is a hybrid tea - Rosa 'Eliza'.

 

I wanted to note that the red rose in the first posting, that I'm calling Rosa 'MEIkrotal', sold under the trade name Scarlet Meidiland, has been cut back for the winter. I know nothing about growing roses, found it interesting to see how this one has been treated.

 

This is the scarlet rose ?
I think Douglas Justice id’d it on the original thread

And yes - I have had garden service cut what I call my « shopping mall roses » back to that kind of look

They grow nice seasonal branches which I will cut back in a few weeks

The mediland i find hère are practical hard workers - no big showy heavy scented blooms so it’s a trade

{I also have quite a few of what is sold as « flower carpet » (another shopping mall parking lot rose!)}

Also no bugs or mildew and summer irrigation

The blooms are small and make lots of nice petals for the « walk down the aisle » celebrations in summer

The petals do not bruise and for one bridal gift - we picked the day before and gently pulled apart and refrigerated in layers of parchment in a Tupperware type rigid plastic lidded container in fridge. It was fun - the young people helped make the gift (a nice memory)

 

Thank you! I am so happy to have that reference. I did not find that when I posted it in the Out and About thread, but I have done a better search, and yes, it was Douglas who ID'd it (or confirmed your ID) in this thread in Plants Identification:
(1) The prettiest rose leaves, shiny with red margins, trailing, double red flowers | UBC Botanical Garden Forums

 

You’re welcome

Off topic now:

My request is another of your « ident » catégories in one thread

For example - FERNS!

I find (with respect of course) all the various pix hard to follow - not being a fern expert !

I struggle with cinnamon vs wood vs ....

I happily do know bracken and swords

Sword ferns are my reliable naturescape fav at the coast year round ... easy care and minimal summer water ... bounce back from a snow pile - nice ground cover year round

I hope that we don’t get the sword fern disease that I think RonB cited a few months ago in Seattle area —- and maybe Margot in Nanaimo area noted too.

Speaking of your compilation threads - the one that is amazing is the topic of flowering cherries that look like trees »
ÉDIT to add link
Appreciation: - Cherries that look like real trees

 

Rosa glauca

I see that I have a thread on roses! Good. Here's another.
Rosa glauca has been mentioned on the forums, but not with photos. No-one replied to a request to locate one for purchase a few years ago. This one is in the landscaping of a condo building two blocks from me. It was pretty easy to come up with a name for rose, grey leaves, single pink flowers. There's only one flower right now - it seems I'm a bit early, but it's the leaves that caught my attention.

 

The Stanley Park Rose Garden is not a blaze of colour, but there are plenty of nice roses to see, just freshly opened. I had no intention of posting any, but I couldn't help myself. I didn't do
'Rhapsody in Blue' justice last year. It has such nifty white markings, like dripped paint, or maybe icing.


This is 'Pretty Lady', with a lot of colour variation. I like the fat leaflets with thin red margins.

 

I hope this is Rosa rugosa, along Lost Lagoon.

 

Well you know how it is when you only know two or three names for something - you manage to fit what you see into one of those slots. So I might be doing that with this single white rose on Lagoon Drive in Stanley Park, making its way up a Deodar Cedar.
I'm calling this Rosa henryi, based on the one of that species I posted at UBCBG at June 2019 in the garden - so much to see in June.
I noted that it is distinguishable from R. filipes by being more likely to have only five leaflets, having fewer flowers in a corymb (5-15) and larger flowers (supposed to be 3-4 cm in diameter, but 6cm was pretty common). It is also mostly hairless and mostly without prickles. I was quoting myself, and I was unable to find the source. This has some hairs along the pedicels, as does the one at UBCBG. The flower I measured was 6cm in diameter.

 

Here is another single white rambling rose. on the Camellia Path in Stanley Park. I think it differs from Rosa henryi in that the leaves are a dull green, not shiny at all, and flower petals almost all have an extruding point at the tip. I see that in one or two henryi pictures, but to me, this is definitely a characteristic of these flowers. These leaflets are usually five, almost lanceolate, from around 6cm to 10cm for the terminal leaflet.

 

Seeing this post with white climbing rose reminded me we have a white (with small yellow centers) climbing the dying branches of an ornamental tree in our coast neighbourhood

The rose is “Seagull”

(I am not sure what detail of the bird the name refers to )

Here is a photo below -

I can’t get close because it is at top of a tree — I estimate it’s climbed up approx 20 feet (6 meter)

It is blooming now

(ÉDIT - thé tree is an old Hawthorne - and the other leaves are clematis armandii )

It seems more common in UK than out here

I can’t find it in the American Rose Society plant database website

rosa multiflora seagull - Google Search

 

Hello Wendy - is it possible for you to take some “landscape” pictures of the Stanley Park rose garden?

I appreciate your close-ups

AND
I would like to see the broad view

Thank you.

 

I read this right after I was at the Rose Garden, and I don't have any immediate plans to go back there, but it really doesn't change much in the landscape view from year to year. There are some landscape views in the first two postings in this thread.

Head gardener Dave told me today that many of the roses in the Rhododendron garden are unnamed, but the red one in bloom now in Ceperley Meadow is called R. 'American Pillar'.

That one is definitely called Old Rose, unnamed. Here are some more photos of it.


These two double white roses near the willow with the galls are also unnamed, one with yellow buds

and one with red buds

 

Gardener Frankie no longer works in the Rose Garden, but she's still around and I know where to find her; she has told me that the Rose Garden plants on the trellis are named on the trellis. That wasn't true for all of the ones I liked, but I do have the names of a few. This is Rosa ‘Félicité et Perpétué’ (or 'Felicite et Perpetue', if you want to do a search using English characters).


Rosa 'Madame Alfred Carriere', which I just posted at UBCBG.


Rosa 'City of York'. The sign says Old Climber.


Rosa 'Dortmund'


Rosa 'Kiftsgate', which had flowers at UBCBG too high to really see.

 

I haven't been back to the Stanley Park Rose Garden for ages, but I was looking for a new walking route that avoided the spots where coyotes have bitten people, so I walked over there, and then walked home via my usual route anyway. There were some new cultivars to me.
Here is Rosa 'Julia Child', a Floribunda rose.


Rosa Peaudouce™, a hybrid tea. I think the cultivar name is 'DICjana', and it also goes by Elina®.


Rosa Mother of Pearl, according to the sign, a Grandiflora rose. The cultivar name seems to be 'Meiludere' according to Rosa 'Mother of Pearl™' Mother of Pearl™ Grandiflora Rose from Prides Corner Farms, (or, and I think more likely, 'MEIludere', according to Rosa 'MEIludere' (Mother Of Pearl®) | Brookgreen) with it shown as Mother of Pearl™ and on other sites as 'Mother of Pearl' and Mother of Pearl®.

 

I posted Rosa 'Eliza' in posting #10, a Grandiflora rose, but its proper cultivar name seems to be R. 'KORaburg'.


And last year I posted Rosa 'About Face' twice, another Grandiflora rose. Its cultivar name seems to be 'WEKosupalz'. It might be my favourite.


For @Georgia Strait, here are some photos of the garden.