Red Navel not producing fruit.

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  1. Cowboy56

    Cowboy56 Member

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    I purchased a young Red Navel (Cara Cara) last spring, and it produced 13 oranges this last winter. As of June, the tree has not flowered or offered any suggestion it will bear fruit this upcoming year. This is my first Orange tree. Do they skip a year once in awhile? The tree is healthy and I have maintained a proper fertilization and insect management plan.

    Thanks for suggestions.
    Mike
     
  2. Millet

    Millet Well-Known Member 10 Years

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    Sounds like your doing everything required by your Cara Cara tree. There are citrus varieties that are bothered by alternate bearing, mostly mandarins and Valencia, but Cara Cara is not much bothered. I believe the "problem" is just the youth of your tree. There is an wonderfully helpful and inexpensive booklet concerning the culture of home citrus in the state of Florida called "Florida Your Dooryard Citrus Guide", published by the University of Florida Institute of Food and Agricultural Sciences (IFAS). Copies for purchase are available from IFAS-Extension Bookstore, PO Box 110011, Gainesville, Florida, 32611-0011 or by telephone at 352-392-2411, I would recomend you purchase a copy. - Millet
     
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    Junglekeeper Esteemed Contributor 10 Years

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    Is this the same document?
     
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    Thanks for your suggestion, I will purchase a copy.

    Mike
     
  5. mr.shep

    mr.shep Well-Known Member 10 Years

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    It seems part of your answer lies in the
    other thread you started. Cara Cara have
    a tendency not to bloom much after they
    have been pruned. I pruned off some extra
    vigorous growth last year on my tree and
    shaped the tree and this year the tree has
    not bloomed at all yet. Another aspect to
    take into account is that the parentage of
    this tree may come into play in that Washington
    Navels and some of their derivative plants
    take a while in years to become dependable
    bearers of fruit year after year. The Trovita
    as an example can bear fruit young, so can
    the Cara Cara and the Fukumoto but many
    Navels take upwards of seven to ten years
    to bear fruit consistently. I do not worry at
    all about a light crop or no crop on young
    plants for the Navels. That will change for
    the better as the trees get some age to them.

    Jim
     
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    Millet Well-Known Member 10 Years

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    Hi Jim, nice reading your posts. Junglekeeper, no they are not the same, however, what you posted is great information. Thank you for posting them. - Millet
     
  7. mr.shep

    mr.shep Well-Known Member 10 Years

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    Below is a link to the book Millet referenced.
    Too bad they do not ship as there are a couple
    of books in the list I wouldn't mind reading
    sometime, just to get a better "feel" for Florida
    Citrus. The IFAS extension bookstore carries
    most of the books shown in this link.

    CREC Publications for sale

    There is this accompanying link to the one that
    Junglekeeper posted as well.

    Diagnosing and Treating Problems with Dooryard Citrus

    I do not believe that all 50 pages of the book
    have been electronically posted online but
    it does appear that the book and most of the
    "Dooryard Citrus" articles are written by the
    same person.

    Jim
     
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    Thanks for the links.
    I did order the "Florida Your Dooryard Citrus Guide" online this afternoon.
    It was only $7.00 plus $3.00 shipping.

    Mike
     
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    Millet Well-Known Member 10 Years

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    Jim, thank you your link, as always you are very helpful. The eighth book down is the publication I was referring to. It is a good booklet. - Millet
     
  10. mr.shep

    mr.shep Well-Known Member 10 Years

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    Sometimes a solitary Orange may be slow to
    set flowers or we see new growth followed
    by flower bud formation and the buds never
    do open. For young Navel Orange type trees
    this is not uncommon. I'd be more concerned
    not seeing any new growth than I would not
    having any flower bud set. A trick that has
    been used by collectors and home gardeners
    is to have a second Navel Orange nearby that
    blooms near or around the same time your
    tree does. The misses Cara Cara had been
    surrounded on all sides by Lemons and a
    few Limes for well over a year. Now, we
    have a Trovita right next to the Cara Cara
    and a parent Washington Navel and a
    Newhall Navel just a few feet away from
    the Cara Cara, just to help things along for
    next year.

    Aside from the vigorous growth that was
    cut back on our Cara Cara last year, the
    new growth had signs of both a Copper
    and a Manganese deficiency starting to
    show in the vigorous growth leaves.
    Once I cut the shoots back to better
    shape the tree, along with an application
    of the old Bandini 0-10-10 with 10%
    Calcium in the formulation, two ounces
    then, two more ounces applied in November
    and two more ounces applied in January,
    I cleared up the deficiency. Three weeks
    ago I gave this tree two ounces of Vigoro
    brand Citrus and Avocado Food, this trees
    first application of Nitrogen since we've had
    it, along with two ounces of Epsom salts
    (gave these amounts to all of the fifteen
    gallon Citrus as well) and one ounce of
    the granular 0-10-10 and watered in the
    fertilizer well.

    Now that we will have steady upper 90
    degree to 100 degree daily temperatures
    with our low humidity and mid to late
    afternoon hot winds, there will not be
    any more applications of Nitrogen the
    rest of the year for any of our container
    plants, Citrus, Maples, Magnolias and
    Pines.

    Well done having the book come in.

    Jim
     

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