Red flower, tree and herb

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  1. Andre

    Andre Active Member Maple Society 10 Years

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    The herb has a funny fruits in spiny star.

    Thank you
     

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    Salvia cv. possibly, S. greggi 'Furman's Red'
    Ailanthus altissima
     
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    Andre Active Member Maple Society 10 Years

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    Thank you !

    I also forgot this one
     

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    Andrey Zharkikh Well-Known Member 10 Years

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    The herb is Carex sp. Judging by its large perigynia (fruit-containing shell), this might be Carex grayi or Carex intumescens or something else.
     
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    Michael F Paragon of Plants Forums Moderator 10 Years

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    Not those two in France! Best match I can find is Carex lepidocarpa, but there are several other very similar species in the Carex flava group.
     
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    Andrey Zharkikh Well-Known Member 10 Years

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    Michael, do you know why can't I find Carex lepidocarpa in the Kew database? Does it have another name?
    http://apps.kew.org/wcsp
     
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    woodschmoe Active Member 10 Years

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    I'm curious about #2, already ID'd as Ailanthus...By what characteristic (aside from tending to ailanthus based on commonality) would we distinguish this from Toona sinensis, given the similarity in leaf: Bark? Seed capsules? At a glance, I always have trouble distinguishing between the two.
     
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    Aha...got it. Thanks saltcedar.
     
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    Yep - I'd used an out-of-date book; now C. viridula subsp. brachyrrhyncha.
     
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    Lila Pereszke Well-Known Member 10 Years

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    (+4. is a Ballota nigra)
     
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