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Discussion in 'Maples' started by Mani, Jul 14, 2020.
Do you think i can get away with planting this out now?
@Mani, IMO not quite yet, but have a look at this thread by @zfrittz.
Cloning of maple cuttings in hydroponics
There are pointers on this thread that will help you.
Thanks I was trying to find that thread!
I guess these are just the protuberances from which the roots will come! They are taking their time to come out!!
@Mani, yes you are right, but when they do they will be delicate so potting up must be done with care, otherwise they break.
Hi @Mani. I've tried this in my early days and I've never had any luck. So I hope it works well for you.
What are you planning on using for potting medium?
Oh, and I thought i was almost there!!
I was planning on a 50/50 mix of soil and grit or i might plant it in the pot of one of my other larger acers......any suggestions?
Can I throw in what I use, John Innes no2, Horticultural grit, Potting pine bark, (Melcourt) and a small amount of Irish moss peat. This gives young seedlings all it needs to get through Winter. My mix is very loose and free draining. Watgerlogging will not take place with this mix, which is the seedlings / cuttings / young grafts worse enemy.
Spagnamus Moss (not spagnamus peat moss) might be the best when transferring very fragile new roots from water. After a good amount of root growth you can then transplant into something well draining.
Thanks - do you have any ideas why it never worked for you?
I don't @Mani
Mine never showed any signs of rooting. They just rotted. Maybe the wrong time of year and or wrong conditions. It's been a while since I've experimented with it. Hydroponics was the best options for me until found out that airlayering was best due to being able to propagate thicker branches.
Did you ever get as far as my pictures?
I wasn't keeping a log back then.
Ok, thanks..........I won't hold my breath then!
Oh @Mani I read your message wrong. Like I was saying in my previous messages. Yours (the one I see in the pic) are further alone than mine when I was experimenting with this method. Mine never showed any signs of forming roots like yours are now. Yours look like they might start forming soon. So I think you should hold your breath. It might work for you.
:D Ok, that's good to know!! Fingers crossed!
I'm rooting for you! Lol
I think the 'Spagnamus moss or peat moss' you mention is actually Sphagnum moss which is found in abundance in Canada, Michigan, Ireland and Scotland.
The difference between Sphagnum moss and Sphagnum peat moss is that the former is alive and the latter, dead and decomposing for 100s or 1000s of years. If living moss is preferable to start maple seedlings, it is possible to grow your own if you can obtain the living plant - I know people here who do that.
Because peat moss builds up so slowly, it has been deemed to be environmentally irresponsible to harvest it. After reading many articles pro and con, I agree with those who think it replenishes quickly enough to supply reasonable garden needs.
One of the very many websites that talk about Sphagnum moss and peat moss:
@LoverOfMaples LOL good one!
@Margot thank you for the great information!
I've actually been meaning to try Sphagnum moss for a long time and this seems like the perfect opportunity.
Sphagnum Mosses and Moss Sphagnum
This is a supplier in the UK Mani @Mani. @Margot is correct in that the roots will very delicate and easily broken so sphagnum moss may well be the best for you.
In my mix btw I use a high proportion of Horticultural potting bark, this is very light and if you don't go down the moss route then do consider this.
I'll bear that in mind!
Thanks for the link!
Hi @Margot. Sorry about the miss spelling. I'll do better next time I promise. But yes, you are correct.
The sphagnum moss I use was from an online provider in France, but it comes from the island of Chiloe, off the coast of Chile.
@AlainK, good afternoon Alain, Herons bonsai gets their supply from New Zealand. He was saying on one of his videos that it is the best. But he might get a discount for saying that !!!??
They both come from islands in the Pacific ocean ;-)