I'm hoping it isn't a forum rule that only Daniel can post here. Just joking... Here is my Pachypodium geayi, brutal spines and all. A diagnostic feature of this plant is that the spines are in groups of 3. This is a great plant and grows very well! http://groups.msn.com/_Secure/0UQDK...W7qrUj/Picture 042.jpg?dc=4675432925775778007 Next are my seedlings of Pachypodium succulentum. They are only a few months old, and are grown from seed sent from a plantly cohort in California. They are already developing the fat 'pachycaul' stems. http://groups.msn.com/_Secure/0UQAu...Bdko1z/Picture 044.jpg?dc=4675432925776546329 And last, but not least, are my seedlings of a doubly hybrid Pachypodium. These are hybrids between a Pachypodium succulentum x namaquanum and a Pachypodium succulentum. http://groups.msn.com/_Secure/0UQDY...FM35qe/Picture 041.jpg?dc=4675432925775078086 All of these live on my "desert windowsill", which is home to 30-40 plants. kathleen :o)