Looking at the two threads on the A.P. Ohsakazuki in the Gallery I find the different pics rather different, if I may say, specially the new spring growth. In addition Jim talks about several Ohsakazukis (maybe several in North America and several in Europe?). I had posted in the gallery several pics of an adult maple, that I believed it was an Ohsakazuki, in my garden. However after looking at the pics and doing some Internet search I am starting to believe that it is not an Ohsakazuki but rather a Matsu kaze, based on the different pictures I have seen. It does also recall Nicholsonii but the summer leaves do not quite fit. I would like to elicit your opinions and to facilitate the task, and in addition to the fall pics in the gallery, here are some more pics (duly downsized) at budbreaking, May, summer leaves, flowers and fruits. Thank you
Hi Gomero: Well, after seeing the photos in the Maple Photo Gallery I can see what may have you wondering about your Maple. Two of the forms I have are shown in these two links. One is a darker green leaf, also is a larger sized leaf than the Japanese form is. http://ganshuku.cool.ne.jp/23_3osakazuki.html http://www.esveld.nl/htmldia/a/acposa.htm Here is a link to the akame form. http://ganshuku.cool.ne.jp/23_3osakazukiaka.html There is also a beni form but I do not have a link for it. Here are two links to Matsukaze. The photos from Ganshukutei are what mine looks like. Mine starts out red then turns a reddish green, then green for the Summer and red back in the Fall. http://www.esveld.nl/htmldia/a/acpmas.htm http://ganshuku.cool.ne.jp/23_3matsukaze.html Here are two links to Nicholsonii. Notice the tips of the lobes. Can have 7, 8, or 9 lobes, mostly in 7's. Sometimes there is only 1 of the smaller lobes. The 5th photo on the second page of the Esveld site does not represent the coloring we get on our Nicholsonii grown here. http://ganshuku.cool.ne.jp/23_3nicholsonii.html http://www.esveld.nl/htmldia/a/acpnic.htm How is this Maple different than the one you posted in the Maple Photo Gallery? http://www.botanicalgarden.ubc.ca/forums/showthread.php?t=5348 Now, tell me what Maple you have? Jim
Gomero- I noticed the same thing. That was the primary reason I added photos in the Osakazuki gallery. I was actually quite amazed at the spring coloration, as I had only had the maple in summer and fall dress last year. Nice going on your thread. As for the answers, I'll leave that up to you. I will say I like the Akame form a great deal. MJH
Jim, Thank you for the tips. If I compare the fall pics for the midorine that you have given http://ganshuku.cool.ne.jp/23_3osakazuki.html and this pic of mine: http://www.botanicalgarden.ubc.ca/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=5555&stc=1 Then I must confess that I believe mine is indeed Ohsakazuki. Both the Matsu Kaze and Nicholsonii have the leaves more deeply divided than mine. What throws me off, just like MJH, are the spring colors: olive green with redish tips and margins which is not what is shown at Esveld's and other sites. Do you agree? Kind regards,
Hi Gomero: Your form, Michael's and one of mine here are pretty much the same form of Osakazuki. You picked up on what I wanted you to see and that was the shape of the leaves. Yes, Matsukaze and Nicholsonii have much more deeply divided leaves than Osakazuki has. I agree the Spring color showing that much rose-pink is not shown in the Esveld web site. Here is a photo of one of my Maples. Even though the photo is not good at all for quality it does give you an idea as to the coloring of the new growth. Jim
I really like the rose pink I have seen in my tree this year. I suspect that it is now a 3yr tree, but I don't think it cared much for its original potted condition. At bud swell I moved the tree in to a full sun western exposure and it has remained there. When looking at the summer photo I have from last year, it represents the Japanese form well. I am not sure what this year is to bring, as I am seeing as much as twice the usual growth on some trees. Maybe my trees are finally getting old enough, or maybe it is just the early spring and climate. If only my memory would hold better from year to year. Gomero-the last photo you posted makes it a bit easier to see th leaf characteristics. Well done.
Jim and Michael, Thanks a lot, I am convinced now. Spring is very late this year in this part of the world and, except Koto hime which is really ahead of the others, half of my maples are just opening up. I'll place some pics on some recent cultivars in a couple of weeks. Kind regards, Gomero
