not an orange trumpet vine, but what is it?

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    I have this crazy bush, with huge orange trumpet flowers. When I search the internet I find the flowers look just like an orange trumpet vine flowers.

    But this bush does not twine around things. I tried to train it to grow along my fence, it doesn't wrap onto things, the branches simply grow straight out like sticks. It grows straight up like a huge bush and grows like a weed when I trim it. It recently produced, just 1 giant bean like thing which I have included a photo of. I hope that will make it easier to identify. Anyone have an idea of what it might be? How big it may become and how to trim it.
     

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    robyn Active Member 10 Years

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    Hi there,

    I think it is a Trumpet Vine. They don't twine, they are self-clinging. Eventually it will
    grow little tendrils which will stick on to surfaces. I think it does this better in hot weather, so may not do so as readily where you are?
     
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    wcutler Paragon of Plants Forums Moderator VCBF Cherry Scout 10 Years

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    The leaves and the fruit look right for that too. Campsis radicans or maybe a hybrid.
     
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    Ron B Paragon of Plants 10 Years

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    Like climbing hydrangea noted as often needing support at first because the grasping does not necessarily start off with a bang. Cutting it back may be having an effect on the situation.
     
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    I am in Toronto Canada, so we have cold winters. It was here 3 years ago when we bought this house, it is a huge bush, taller than me and has been cut back twice. I wonder if it will ever twine.
     
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    saltcedar Rising Contributor 10 Years

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    It will never twine as it doesn't have that ability.
    It may eventually develop hold-fast rootlets on
    rough surfaces such as wood, brick or stone.
     
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    I dunno, when I look up Campsis radicans I see photos of things winding around trees that are clearly a vine. I have lived with this bush for 3 years and it is huge. It was mature when I moved here and I wonder if it will ever produce these tendrals that will hold on to things or if it is just something different.

    The depscriptions of Campsis radicans say that "these vines must be grown on sturdy structures because mature plants produce considerable weight." When my bush is naked in the winter it just looks like a bush, no twisting, nothing like the photos of rolling twisitng branches in the pix shown on the internet. Maybe it is some kind of highbred. I am going to google some more. thanx for the replies
     
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    wcutler Paragon of Plants Forums Moderator VCBF Cherry Scout 10 Years

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    Maybe it's the ends of the branches that start twining, but you keep cutting them. It wants to twine its way up. If there's something there for support, Campsis will start twining up. If you want it to grow horizontally, you'll have to tie it onto a framework till it takes that shape. There is quite a detailed description on a Louis the Plant Geek page.
     
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    Just found this: It is essential that a trumpet vine has good support and a structure to twine and cling to. Without good support, the plant will not thrive. The structure could be something as basic as a chain link fence, a lattice trellis, rocks, a wooden retaining wall or even a tree. My bush has been there for more than 3 years right beside the chain link fence and even when I tied its branches on would not twine on it. I guess it is a mystery. Maybe it is just an orange trumpet non twining bush, lol.

    Thanx, will check out that link, did not see your post before I posted this.

    Thanx, that was a helpful article. I had the branches tied to the chain link fence beside it for a full season but nothing happened. I may have cut the ends off after that, maybe that is why it didn't twine. I will try again and leave them there for several years to see if anything happens and follow what the article says. I had assumed it was something that happened within one season, but the article seems to say making it twine horizontally takes a lot longer.
     
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