Need help to ID this JM!

Hello all,
Can someone help me to ID this beautiful maple? Is it Sumi nagashi ?
This tree is about 10' tall and 5 ' wide, exposes to full sun in Zone 6A.
Thanks,

Joe

 

Joe,

Was that pic taken just now?

Gil

 

Hi Gil,
Yes, this afternoon.
Joe

 

Joe,

That plant looks very content! It seems a little different than a 'Sumi nagashi' that I grow. Pic coming.

 

Hi Joe, beautiful photo, your leaves look similar to the 'Sumi nagashi' leaves here, other than here basically the 2 basal lobes seem much shorter in comparison to the other leaf lobes. Maybe the growth here is a little more advanced than on your tree . Just guesses, hard to be sure, wondering if it's grafted or possibly cutting grown. Molto bello ! , right alex.

 

This 'Sumi nagashi' is not grown in full sun.

Back here the plants look a lil different as well.

The tapering of the lobes is not the same and also as Chimera noted the basal leaves are different, less of a whirl form.

No doubt there are several forms of SN.

 

Hi Alex, It's hard to tell if it is grafted, cutting or seedling. Joe

 

I already have a Suminagashi, but my best gess is that it could be 'Burgundy lace'. (At less it looks similar to my two BL cultivars)

Nelran

 

Leaf colour is not reminiscent of Burgundy Lace

 

i agree with chimera is moltoo bello,si for me is Sumi nagashi,introduced by Angyo nursery in 1930(quote "Maples for the Garden " Timber press)
ciao belli!