Need help identifyting two dried herbarium plants

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  1. lord_blackfang

    lord_blackfang Member

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    Hello,

    I'm a biology student at the University of Ljubljana, Slovenia (central Europe)

    As part of my studies I was assigned to collect a herbarium of 100 local species. I've recently learned that I had mis-identified a few of the specimens. Botany is not my primary interest and now that the plants have been pressed and dried I am having great difficulties discerning the details.

    I was hoping someone here could at least point me in the right direction. I'm not expecting miracles. I'm hoping for a genus or at least familia (yes, it's that bad!)

    So here are the two specimens that are giving me trouble, with close-ups on the flowers.

    http://gallery.blackfang.net/Forumpix/bot/IMG_4048.JPG
    http://gallery.blackfang.net/Forumpix/bot/IMG_4049.JPG
    The first one was growing on moist ground in between a pond and a forest edge.

    http://gallery.blackfang.net/Forumpix/bot/IMG_4052.JPG
    http://gallery.blackfang.net/Forumpix/bot/IMG_4053.JPG
    The second one was growing on the edge of a path through a light forest.

    Any help would be greatly appreaciated.

    Please tell me if you need any more information.
     
  2. Michael F

    Michael F Paragon of Plants Forums Moderator 10 Years

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    #1 is in the family Lamiaceae
    #2 is in the family Asteraceae
     
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    alex66 Rising Contributor Maple Society 10 Years

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    1 clematis Vitalba
    2 anemone
    alex
     
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    hehe look more closely at your photos and you will see that they're actually identified for you!

    #1: Rhinanthus gracialus
    #2: Senecio barbareifolius

    edit: could be wrong, but Michael has the families right.
     
  5. lord_blackfang

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    This looks likely. Thanks, at least it's a start :)

    Uh, thanks for the attempt, but even I can see those are wrong at first glance.

    Those are my own incorrect labels.
     
  6. Robert Flogaus-Faust

    Robert Flogaus-Faust Active Member 10 Years

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    first plant

    The first plant could be a species from the genus Galeopsis.
     
  7. lord_blackfang

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    Hello again,

    I thought I'd let you know hot it's going. I think the first one is indeed a Galeopsis, but it's hard to determine the species due to discoloring. The second one is, I'm quite certain, Rudbeckia laciniata.

    Thanks for the help!
     

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