Mystery Rose: A real challenge

Discussion in 'Plants: Identification' started by nadianadia, Oct 7, 2006.

  1. nadianadia

    nadianadia Member

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    Hello,
    This Mystery rose has been uncovered in an older garden in Tasmania, Australia. The photos are a pretty good range for help with identification. I give up LOL, its a real challenger. The bud appears to be a red rose, totally. It is a red and yellow blend tho mostly red. And the yellow appears in the centre of the flower on the red petals and looks spray painted or veined on (no other way to describe it as red flecks through). It fades to a pinky red.

    http://www.gardenexpress.com.au/forum/viewtopic.php?t=3381
    http://www.gardenexpress.com.au/forum/viewtopic.php?t=3283

    No other rose I know of does this.
     
  2. Rima

    Rima Active Member

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    It occurred to me that it might be worthwhile to get in touch with some of the older, well known rose societies in England (sorry, don't know who they are - but it shouldn't be too difficult to find out) to check into your flowers (which are unbelievable!). The English are so knowledgable about roses and I'm sure have loads of 'lineage' info. and full-time 'students' that someone might be able to find answers for you.
     
  3. Weekend Gardener

    Weekend Gardener Active Member 10 Years

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    The shape of the bloom and the colour blend suggests that it is not too "old" - certainly not ancient. The blooms have a hybrid tea look to it. But I have no idea what it is. There are a number of experts who frequent the Heritage Rose Foundation's website forum, including Stephen Scanniello, the President, and Dr. Malcolm Manners. You might want to try posting on their forum.
     
  4. nadianadia

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    Is this Contessa De Santago perhaps?
     
  5. Ron B

    Ron B Paragon of Plants 10 Years

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    Modern rose flowers and foliage. Might have been a tea if it had tea foliage but it has modern foliage. Modern roses come and go like clothing fashions, and are highly numerous (very many kinds). If it is not recognized by someone here (or at GardenWeb Name That Rose forum or other internet opportunity) your best bet might be to take flowering specimens, in all stages of development, with foliage, to a local rose show.

    Check all names suggested against written descriptions, do not rely on photos alone. Ideally you would also compare with live specimens in other collection(s) before adopting a name.
     
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    We're talking contessa santago hybrid tea here, how is it not hybrid tea foliage? And thats 1930 a modern rose.
     
  7. Ron B

    Ron B Paragon of Plants 10 Years

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    I didn't say hybrid tea, I said "tea". It certainly does look like a hybrid tea.
     

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