Michelia figo

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  1. Junglekeeper

    Junglekeeper Esteemed Contributor 10 Years

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    I am seeking advice from people who have experience growing Michelia figo either indoors or outdoors, especially from those located in my immediate geographical area.

    A plant that was acquired in February managed to bloom and put on some new growth in the months following. Though not lush, it was doing fairly well. However it has slowly declined in the past month or so. It's leaves are turning brown around the edges and dropping off. What little new growth, leaves and buds, starts off looking green and healthy but subsequently die off.

    A healthy, greenhouse grown plant that was added to my collection last week is now beginning to show the same symptoms. This leads me to conclude the problem is the result of low humidity in my semi-enclosed growing environment. The addition of a pan of water underneath the plant has had little effect. Misting would not be particularly effective or practical. Not sure I would go to the trouble of constructing a tent.

    Time to consider a more suitable species? Have you had a similar problem? Please share your thoughts on growing this wonderful plant.
     
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    I have one in a one gallon pot with a saucer below on my sheltered west facing ground level patio. I had it indoors all winter and treated it as a houseplant. The bloom in spring was sad, a handful of blooms with almost no fragrance. It is now budded again for a second round of blooms. I let it get fairly dry then water it really thouroughly, even letting it stand in the saucer full of water until it all dries out again. I havent fed it, I try to spin it around once in a while because it seems quite phototropic, perhaps because of the limited light it gets. right now it seems happier than a pig in poop.
     
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    http://www.pirocheplants.com/Piroche/Web2002/Piroche.pdf
    follow the link for a PDF catalog from Piroche Plants, they are the nursery that wholesales the Michelias locally. There is also a few different varieties that are available (their sales person tried in vain to get me to buy a different type than Figo due to the questionable hardiness). you have to scroll down a long ways to see the listing, its under the shade trees heading.
     
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    Hi, Paul. It's encouraging to know someone is having success with the plant in this part of the world. Perhaps your plant is cooler and getting more humidity being on the ground floor. I'll have to think of other ways to increase the level here and see if it will change anything.

    I know of Piroche. My collection has several species of Michelia and Osmanthus from them. Too bad they're wholesale only; their WDS selections, Michelia in particular, are not that common at retail. I'd love to get my hands on a small M. skinneriana, the supposedly hardier version of M. figo, to see if it'll grow any better.
     
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    If you need a plant from Piroche at the retail level, call them and ask who has it in stock, if no one does, then ask them to get in touch with a local (to you) garden center, then go pester the garden center yourself to order it in. They may sell to you (Piroche that is) but you will have to pay retail and probably a bit for shipping if you ask nice enough.. If you have a tough time, let me know and I will see what I can do for you.
     
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    Thanks for the offer, Paul. I'll keep it in mind.
     
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    roger that.
     
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    Michelia figo does not like salt build up. For indoor growing
    Paul is right to let the plant dry out some then give it a good,
    thorough flush of water. Without sunlight there may not be
    much for a fragrance.

    For outdoor growing an overhead sprinkler works best but
    do not let water stay on the leaves long. Any alkaline water
    will scorch the leaves in hot weather and will produce salt
    burn. Another thing to remember is do not use a lot of sand
    in your soil mixes. Michelia figo is quite susceptible to
    nematode damage. When what appears to be healthy leaves
    start dropping off without any apparent injury, look to the roots
    and see if you have any nodules. That is the first indication.
    The second is that the leaves will grow quite small, will
    become chlorotic and then drop off. In many nurseries we
    have an overlay of sand on top of the soil. When the roots
    enter the ground from the drainage holes of the container
    is when we will see our first symptoms of some nematode
    damage. You guys may not have to worry about nematodes
    but we have to with Figo, several types of Azaleas, some
    Camellias and especially certain forms of Gardenias.

    If the condition of the browning of the tips and/or the
    edges of the leaves were happening here, it would be
    due to salt build up. I've grown Figo and 'Port Wine'
    before. For us being a warm climate they like being
    grown in a saran house with about 50-60% shade. No
    direct sun but with adequate indirect light with a well
    drained soil. Grown outdoors Eastern exposures work
    best for us with morning sun either in the ground or in
    containers. I have not grown these indoors so I cannot
    be much help there. Although I would not ever use a
    granulated fertilizer for these, I would use an acid based
    liquid fertilizer instead for in the home or in a greenhouse.

    We did find that in an enclosed area such as greenhouse the
    leaves do not like being wet for most of the day. The leaves
    like to remain dry which may be why Paul's is doing well
    indoors. Early morning sprinkler watering worked best for
    us in a nursery grown outdoor environ.

    Jim
     
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    Thanks for your input, mr.shep. The combination of indoor cultivation and perhaps cooler weather in these parts appears to keep infestations to a minimum. No problems to date, knock on wood.

    Re: Fragrance...experienced growers have told me it is activated by morning sun.
     
  10. mr.shep

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    Hi Junglekeeper:

    Here we tend to grow Michelia doltsopa like we would most
    any deciduous Magnolia but for Figo and Port Wine we grow
    them like we would a Sasanqua or Reticulata Camellia. Many
    people would not think there would be much of a variance in
    how we grow those plants in a nursery but there are some
    definite differences in the plants behaviors.

    I know of one leading Camellia grower that puts out a great
    plant but when we leave their plants in containers for two to
    three years we notice that their Camellias start to slow down,
    endure some leaf breakdowns and will die on us on occasion.
    We learned that if we plant those Camellias in the ground soon
    after getting them in that our losses are minimal. So we asked
    ourselves some questions, is it the plant that is breaking down,
    causing an assortment of leaves to show salt damage symptoms
    and nutrient deficiencies at the same time or was it the soil that
    initially came with the Camellia that was causing us the most
    trouble?

    We started to flush the plants with a hose watering every now
    and then hoping to help or solve the salt buildup even though
    our water is not alkaline at all and we did not give these plants
    any granulated fertilizer. Well, the salts was not it. Then we
    started to change the soil medium as soon as we had the plants
    come in and in doing that we seldom lost a plant after that. It
    was their potting soil mix that was breaking down on us.

    I suggest that you may want to try a different potting mix and
    see if that helps but I also know that once a Figo starts to decline
    it may not come back to being healthy anytime soon. Then again
    you do not have the heat stress that we have to endure and we do
    not have your length of cool weather either. Try a new soil mix
    and start flood watering your Figos every now and then and see
    if doing both will help.

    Good luck to you,

    Jim
     
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    Interesting. I've not heard of plants in containers suffering from soil breakdown, soil exhaustion perhaps; worth remembering. Perhaps I'll hold off on giving M. x alba a try until I solve the problem with this plant. It would be a lot more heartbreaking, not to mention costly, to lose one of those.
     
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    Michelias: a brief addendum.

    Just a quick note, all from memory as I have no books
    where I am in Oregon to help me.

    I originally learned Michelia alba as being Michelia champaca
    'Alba'. The nursery I represented grew that form of Michelia.
    The original plant at the nursery came from Sir Harold Hillier
    many years ago. 'Maudiae' was a good form and was another
    Michelia to come in here from Harold Hillier.

    As far as hardiness goes, we had no real trouble with Doltsopa
    'Silver Cloud', Doltsopa and with a Doltsopa selection I believe
    was called 'Dr. Thomas' (that is the name I remember it being
    called, initially named that in honor of the owner of the home
    where the original plant was found, somewhere near Marin
    County). I also believe there are a couple of those plants still
    alive at Filoli in Woodside as I know how they got them and
    who they got their plants from.

    I do not know how long you guys in B.C. have been growing
    Michelias but Champaca and Alba are not nearly as hardy as
    the Doltsopa's have been for us. I do think that Champaca is
    a little hardier than Figo and 'Port Wine' (I know in some
    circles Figo is called the Port Wine Magnolia but the form
    of Port Wine that we had was almost an all pink flower as
    opposed to our Figo with a lightly pink bordered flower).
    'Yunnanensis' is probably hardier than any of the above, on
    a par with Doltsopa (it was for us). I do not know much of
    anything about Michelia skinneriana as we never had that one.
    I've had Michelia wilsonii and it seems hardier for us and for
    me than any of the Doltsopas. The problem was and still is,
    I think, is it a Magnolia instead? I think that answer depends
    on where and who the Wilsonii came from and I'll admit I am
    confused with Wilsonii as I've had both forms of the Magnolia
    and Michelia. To me they are not the same in flower and in the
    shape of the leaves. The growth habit for me was different in
    that one is a much more upright grower and will become a bona
    fide tree whereas the other seems to me to be a large shrub.
    Throw in a Magnolia x Wieseneri into the mix and then the
    intrigue of what we know about Wilsonii becomes even more
    confusing.

    Don Kleim of Henderson Experimental Gardens grew several
    forms of Michelia starting in the early 60's including one that
    Don called "Chartreusie", a Doltsopa that had a green stripe
    on the backside of the petals and a yellow-green colored base
    to the flower that did not fade much. It was a strongly, lemon
    scented round shaped large shrub, that grew about 3 meters
    tall and about 4 1/2 meters wide. Chartreusie seemed to be
    the hardiest of all the Michelia's that Don had. I just threw
    that info in "just because" as it shows that there might be
    other forms around that none of us knew of or still do not
    know anything about.

    Jim
     
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    Hi, Jim. The selection and availability of Michelia is rather limited here, likely because of the relative obscurity of the genus and the climate zone we're in. The heat lovers like M. x alba and M. champaca are only grown in greenhouses and M. figo is marginal outdoors (and apparently indoors as well).

    I agree M. maudiae is a wonderful specimen. The one that I have has beautiful form and foliage. Vigorous too; it has already put on 2' of growth this year. I can't wait for it to flower.

    There certainly is confusion with this genus. With regards to M. figo I believe there are actually two different selections - the regular species with creamy yellow flowers and the 'Port Wine' cultivar with maroon flowers. The confusion stems partly from the unfortunate common name, Port Wine Magnolia, which I believe is applied to both plants. And to further add to the confusion, they're debating whether to incorporate Michelia into the Magnolia genus. If that happens Michelia wilsonii will be getting a new name yet again.
     
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    Hi Junglekeeper:

    Just to add to the fun, I believe Michelia fuscata which
    was a synonym for Michelia figo is now being used in
    some cases for Port Wine. The Port Wine Magnolia
    attribution does not help matters as that to me is Figo.
    Yes, indeed there are some problems there.

    Not many people are familiar at all with Michelia so
    this thread is a good starting point for people to jump
    in and ask their questions. I am glad that my last
    "open" post was not taken wrong by you as I just
    jumped out there with some thoughts that I've had
    for a while on Michelia. That last post was not
    addressed to anyone in particular.

    Hardiness is a factor even for us with Michelia but
    like many plants once they have been in the ground
    for a while, usually 3 years here, they do tend to adapt
    better to our growing conditions. If Figo can be
    planted in a protected Eastern exposure it can make
    it here but not everyone can plant it in the right spot
    to insure that it may live. Then, we can later worry
    about it setting flower buds in a few years.

    Doltsopa's have not shown us to be as cold intolerant
    as we have been led to believe. You may want to look
    at 'Yunnanensis' and possibly give it a try but even then
    you will probably have to grow it in a greenhouse.

    In getting back to your low humidity thought, there
    may be something to it as I've encountered problem
    areas in other threads whereby people are not getting
    enough humidity even in their homes in Canada. With
    our Tule fog here during the Winter and earliest Spring
    months we do not have to worry about low humidity as
    much here. I am not used to heated greenhouses as even
    our greenhouses here when it is cold are not that cool
    inside of them. It is possible that the low humidity
    can cause a salt type scorch on the leaves. I've seen it in
    some Oregon greenhouses and my suggestion was run a
    humidifier after they changed their soil composition for
    their plants. I've found most of our problems originate
    with the soil and the roots of a plant.

    You can always work your Figos like an Orchid grower
    would when there is not enough humidity in our homes.
    Place some fine rock on the bottom of the pan to be
    used under the container. Place the "can" on top of
    the rocks and then fill the pan with water. It does work
    for us with our indoor Orchids. The leaves seem to
    stay healthy for us and do not require as much misting
    during the Winter months.

    Still, I would do some experimenting with various soil
    mixes for indoor or greenhouse growing. I would want
    a soil mix that allows for quick drainage but I want
    aeration in the soil, so compaction is minimized. You
    may want to try a soil mix that I use on my Maples,
    Conifers, Camellias, shoot just about everything. I
    run 1/2 humus, a coarse ground fir and pine bark, 1/4
    sand and 1/4 silt all mixed together well by hand. If
    I mix it right I can get by for up to 7 years of hose
    applied, deep watering for all of my container grown
    plants (generally 20", 24" and 30" boxes). It is a
    simple mix but it has been quite effective for me.

    Michelia selection has always been limited most
    everywhere. Don had several varieties but he only
    propagated about 5 Michelias and even then only
    select people would want to grow them on. Usually
    someone that grew or grows Magnolias will try to
    grow Michelias as opposed to most anyone else.
    I think that one nursery that Paul mentioned has as
    good a selection of Michelias of anyone that I know
    of at the moment. Find out what their minimums are
    as you may be able to buy let's say 10, 5-gallons of
    mixed and matched Michelias. Make your one
    purchase count for you. I've done it in the past when
    I was buying strictly retail. I made a wholesale grower
    or two in Oregon in the past an overture after I knew
    what their minimums were and they never did refuse
    me. I came into their nursery to buy 20+ 5 and 15
    gallon plants anyway and that is what I left with. I
    knew what I wanted for plants from them before we
    ever talked about plant minimums.

    Just for the record as I could not resist it, which form
    of Wilsonii will be getting a new name? I know what
    you are saying but the people that want to change the
    name generally have not grown either form but prefer
    to instead take someone else's word for it or have someone
    else grow the plant or plants for them. The problem is
    as always, do the people doing most of the talking know
    anything about the plant and in this particular case plants?
    It is real tough to believe someone that has not ever grown
    the plant in question. I'll leave things at that!

    Best regards,

    Jim
     
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    Morning brief: A Michelia backtrack.

    Personally, I feel the Magnolia Society should include
    Michelia species and forms in with the many Magnolia
    cultivars. The tricky part is how should they proceed to
    include Michelias in with the Magnolias. Granted, many
    of the Michelias were first found in areas of China in
    which there were several forms of Magnolias growing
    there as well. I am not so sure it will be wise to lump the
    Michelias in with the Magnolias for the Societies "cultivar
    check list" as I feel both Michelias and Magnolias should
    be separate. It is confusing enough just with 'Wilsonii' in
    that arguments can be made for both forms to be separate
    of each other. Related yes, but there is enough differences
    in the two species to allow for a separate classification for
    both plants based on their form and their overall growth
    characteristics. The problem then arises is, who knows the
    differences in the two plants? Someone that has not grown
    them or seen enough of them will not know everything they
    will need to know to accurately separate out the two plants.
    This is one time that the scientific community can help but
    they will really need to know the plants, rather than taking
    someone else's word for it. They will need to thoroughly
    evaluate both plants and then in taxonomic terms separate
    the two plants once and for all with a reasonable basis to
    back up the new classification. To classify the Michelia
    as a Magnolia would be wrong but to lump the Magnolia
    as a Michelia would also be errant to do. There is not a
    simple solution to this one and I am glad I get to stay out
    of it. I am not a member of the Magnolia Society, although
    I should be a member. Aside from knowing some of the
    members pretty well, no one will want my opinion and I've
    grown both forms. For a graduate student it could pan out
    to be worthwhile study for someone if what I've seen and
    know about Wilsonii is indeed true with other people.

    Jim
     
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    Michelia wilsonii will be getting a new name since Michelia is being absorbed. The new name is Magnolia ernestii according to the provisional classification of Magnoliaceae.

    I would prefer Michelia to remain a separate genus based solely on sentiment. Like you, I'll leave the intricacies of plant nomenclature to the experts at IPNI and other organizations that are responsible for such things. For me, I just want to know what to call my plants and to know the various names it was once given so I can research the plant.
     
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    Hi Junglekeeper:

    In some ways the Michelia name was bound to be absorbed
    into a Magnolia classification. I have to cite as an example
    the old argument of Azaleas versus Rhododendrons as a
    reason why the name Michelia probably will not change
    much in the near future. We still grow and buy Kurume
    and Satsuki Azaleas rather than call them Rhododendrons.
    Yes, they are all classed as being a Rhododendron but not
    all Azaleas are a Rhododendron in form.

    A Michelia doltsopa 'Silver Cloud' will probably stay that
    name in the nursery trade for some time. I am not overly
    worried that the "Magnolia police" are going to come into
    the nurseries and force people to change their labels on
    their plants anytime soon.

    Years ago there was a grad student that was working on
    Magnolias from a Mid-Western University that came
    into contact with us. When the guy was working on
    deciduous Mags he was in good shape but the problem
    that he encountered was in the evergreen Magnolias.
    The Magnolia Society really has little choice but to
    use the old classifications as no one really has been
    able to set forth an improvement on them. I like the
    idea of going back to the old basic classifications and
    wish more plant Societies would do the same. I am
    a purist in that I feel it is ridiculous to change the name
    of a plant just because it suits one or a few people that
    for the most part have never grown the plant or perhaps
    never will grow the plant. I really have no problems
    with someone calling what I learned to be a Michelia
    champaca 'Alba' a Michelia alba instead as long as we
    are talking about or referring to the same plant. Online
    in pic form I am seeing the plant called Alba that I once
    knew as Champaca alba, so it is up to me to adjust to
    the new name and that I can do. Wilsonii will require
    a lot of adjusting on my part as I truly think and it is not
    solely my opinion either, that there are two plants both
    being called Wilsonii. If I was an ornery cuss I would
    have told the grad student that one form is Wilsonii and
    the other form is Ernesti Wilsonii! There was a time that
    I could have promoted that other name and it would have
    been used in various circles, perhaps even today. All it
    would have taken was for me or for us to get a following
    for that plant and have it so widespread that no one would
    have dared called it by any other name. Get the plant in
    the right hands and the negative boo birds are out of luck
    in changing things around for a long while. Oddly enough
    that same reasoning was used in Japanese and Full Moon
    Maples in the past and it was rather effective.

    Those of us that are conscientious that have a genuine
    interest in plants want to have specific and permanent
    names placed on the plants and be done with it. Even if
    it means that what we learned of a name may be changed
    later but if the name sticks and will hold over time I
    think most of us can go along with it but not without
    some reservations. The latter is a normal consequence
    that we just have to endure individually.

    Michellias are safe for now, so that is not a worry that
    I would have. If I were growing Michelias for resale
    or for retail and a few cops from the Magnolia police
    asked me to change my label, I can guarantee you that
    I would give the enforcers an open book quiz just on
    Michelias that they will probably not pass. My point
    will be driven home by asking them questions which
    shows how little they know about that plant and as a
    result how absurd it is for them to tell me that I need
    to comply with their and others wishes not as well
    versed also in the same plants as well. Knowledge
    does come into play and when people are shown the
    "power" of knowledge they will yield. They will not
    be happy about it, they will fight it but in the end
    knowledge should prevail. The old Don Kleim
    philosophy of "I've seen it and you' haven't. I've
    grown it and you' haven't. If you' want to know
    more about this plant, then you' have to come to
    me and if I do not feel like telling you' anything
    more about this plant, I will not do it!" That slice
    of personal philosophy was the price that the
    scientific community brought upon itself for their
    being so obstinate and at times overbearing. The
    people that could help them the most from the
    growing end of the plant spectrum just simply
    shut up and told them nothing more.

    Jim
     
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    Hi Junglekeeper:

    Don't feel that what I wrote in the last paragraph pertains
    to you in any way. Some people in the educational fields
    have caused growers a lot of grief over the years. It is
    okay for certain people to change names around to make
    someone look good to their peers but no one seems to
    consider what the ramifications are or might be elsewhere.
    When you as a collector, perhaps, have to be worried about
    the names of your plants that you purchased as being what
    you bought them as being, then all of us have failed you.
    I know exactly how you feel though about Michelias, for
    example, as I've been through it also and still have some
    areas of concern of my own with that plant.

    I think the Magnolia Society is trying to iron out some
    of their problem issues from the past and the present.
    I think they are correct to address all of the plants or
    as many as they can of the Magnoliaceae classification.
    I really do not think that the higher ups really want to
    mesh or merge Michelia in with all of the Magnolias.
    Personally, I think a strong morphological case can
    be made not to name all of the Michelias as being an
    evergreen Magnolia instead.

    You have to realize that many of the society members
    probably have not grown any of the Michelias. You are
    in rare company and probably have more knowledge of
    Michelias than many of the society members have. I
    have some knowledge of Michelia but I am not an expert
    by any means as there were people that I learned various
    Michelias from that could run circles around me for
    knowledge of that plant.

    The bit with the Magnolia police was just facetious,
    tongue in cheek, fun as the Magnolia Society would
    not ever try to throw their weight around and demand
    changes in the nurseries, unlike what some unusually
    brash, young kids representing the State have tried to
    do on occasion. Moreover, policing of nurseries plant
    labels has been carried out in the past unbeknown to a
    lot of people. I have reason to believe there are some
    growers in Oregon that still remember those days. I
    know of a specific mom and pop foothill nursery near
    here that came dangerously close to being closed down
    all because of their plant labels back in 1982.

    Thanks for getting this thread started. I may have
    waited one post too long for me to opt out. I will
    do that now unless you have some more questions
    to ask.

    I think your main issue is with the soil mix. That
    is where I would be concentrating on to remedy
    the problem with the leaves that you originally
    asked about.

    Best regards,

    Jim
     
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    Thanks, Paul and Jim, for your input. Sadly, the plant appears to have gone on to plant heaven where I'm sure it'll grow profusely. I'll note the information for future reference. Sometimes one has to accept the limitations in one's growing environment, that some plants cannot be accommodated without great trouble and expense.
     
  20. mr.shep

    mr.shep Well-Known Member 10 Years

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    Hi Junglekeeper:

    We always seem to learn things the hard way when we try to
    grow a plant in an environment of our choosing, rather than
    in the plants optimal setting.

    I have not seen any Figos come back to health once they take
    a dramatic turn for the worse. The plant is quite similar to a
    Camellia in that respect.

    All we can do is try to analyze what went wrong and improve
    on our growing conditions the next time. I know what we
    went through with two forms of Stewartia here but we knew
    in advance that we were trying to grow a plant that would have
    a rough time of it. We sustained several losses before we got
    a few of them to live. It may seem like we lost a lot of individual
    battles before we felt we finally won the war but winning the war
    was costly. To introduce a plant in an environ that it is not used
    to growing in takes a lot of patience and willpower to succeed.

    One of the reasons why these UBC forums are so immensely
    important is so some of us can chime in on occasion and let
    people know not to make the same mistakes we've made in the
    past with certain plants. It takes a dedicated person to grow a
    plant knowing up front that the odds of its survival are indeed
    limited at best. Still, we try because we want to and because
    of the inner self gratification we get when we do succeed in
    growing a plant here that most people would not ever think
    was possible.

    I know nothing of your growing set up but I would not give
    up just yet. I know all too well how difficult it is to lose a
    plant you wanted to have and then go through all of the
    thinking, debating whether to go out and buy another one
    or not. Keep trying, you did just fine is all I can say to you
    should you want to grow Michelias. I lost my initial Figo
    in the first growing year that I had it. The next Figo did
    great for me with the same soil, the same sun exposure and
    the same exact setting. Go figure!

    Hope you have better luck with the next one.

    Jim
     
  21. Hi Mr.Shep,

    My mom is interested in getting a Michelia, I was wondering where can I find it?

    Thanks,
    Lynn
     
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    growest Active Member 10 Years

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    Lynn--where is your mom located? Some of us know suppliers in our own areas, but shipping a long way is often not practical!

    Glen
     
  23. Hi Mr.Shep,

    I agree with you about the handling and shipping, it cost more than half the tree itself. The I am located in the San Joaquin Valley myself. If you know anywhere in California that provide them that would be great. Thanks for your help.

    Thanks,
    Lynn
     
  24. Hi Glen,

    My mom is located in California. If you can refer me to a couple of places that sell them that would be great.

    Thanks,
    Linh
     
  25. jimmyq

    jimmyq Well-Known Member 10 Years

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    FINALLY! the flowers opened yesterday afternoon, wonderful smell, 6 more blooms yet to open. Michelia figo.
     

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