Thank you for the previous help I received. Here is another plant that has me bamboozled. It is a deciduous plant with leaves about 4-5 inches long that goes orange/red in colour before they drop. The pictures were taken in November. The plant grows very fast, runners are almost 3 ft a year. It gets red berries in the fall. I havent seen any flowers on it but I guess they must be there when I'm not ! Is this a Sorbus or maybe it's another Photinia (perhaps beauverdiana) ?
Photinia villosa. Come up with a few more and you will soon have the whole set, as far as those cultivated much here is concerned.