Maples in parks and elsewhere

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  1. AlainK

    AlainK Renowned Contributor Forums Moderator Maple Society 10 Years

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    29°C, and it's going to last for at least a few days, temps will go down a bit at the weekend, then up again to 30.
    And no rain forecast for at least two weeks.

    I went to a "cool" place, some shade under the big trees. "Arboretum des Grandes Bruyères". They have an "asian garden" section with some maples, a big Zelkova, Pinus pentaphylla, Ulmus parvifolia, etc.

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    Here are some photos of a few of the maples. These were just labelled "Acer palmatum" :

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    This one too was labelled "palmatum", but I think it is not. Japonicum ?

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    Shirasawanum :

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    A detail of one of the cappadocicum :

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    There were others like Acer triflorum, several Acer buergerianum, a small Acer ukurunduense in a poor condition, Acer negundo, a big variegated species of Acer campestre, Acer triflorum, etc.
    I'll have to go back to take more pictures. ;0)

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    Silly temperatures for May, I see that parts of France are now having water shortages. What is July and August going to bring!!
    Looks a lovely cool place to visit Alain.
     
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    You're welcome any time : the bugs won't bite, there are so many spiders in the house that I can't remember their names.

    The "red" "département" in the center is like the bull's eye. That's where I live :

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    OMG the red zone. This could be a difficult Summer Alain. Hope it's not like 76.
     
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    AlainK Renowned Contributor Forums Moderator Maple Society 10 Years

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    76 was the year when I went to Dundee to spend a school year as a "French assistant". I thought the photos of the hills (the "laws") were "painted", today, we would say photoshoped, but they weren't. The hills were really purple.

    I remember I smiled at the advice on the radio "prefer a shower to a bath", to save water. In the flat we shared with other students, there was only a bath tub, so we bought an adaptator, one rubber pipe on the cold water tap, another one on the hot tap. It was at that time a "cultural" difference, very few flats were equipped with showers. I'm talking about the mid-seventies, where French homes had toilets in the back of the garden, as "the Americans" believed <LOL>

    In the heat of this '76 summer, there was still a place in Scotland where there was still some snow, and a road sign that had been used as a "slide". Wonder who was fool enough to slip down the snow ?

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    Admire the long hair in the wind, and the slender silhouette of the laddie, huh huh huh...

    Sorry, no photos of the crash at the bottom of the slope.
     
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    Someone young and care free !!! Lol.
     
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    AlainK Renowned Contributor Forums Moderator Maple Society 10 Years

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    Yesterday, I visited the "Arboretum des Prés de Culans", 20 km from where I live. It's also a National Conservatory of Ilex, they have about 500 varieties, but they're not as easy to spot as other trees, and most of the time less spectacular.

    The first time I went there was years ago, at the end of summer, and I noticed they had some nice maples, but not at their best. This time, I was really impressed. This time, all the trees were at their best. The fact that is is located in a kind of marsh-like area, with channels of small rivers called "Les Mauves" probably helps. The tallest trees (Taxodium, various conifers, etc.) help keep them in the shade, and "les Mauves" keep a humid atmosphere that most maples love.

    Don't panic ! I won't post the 50+ pics I took, but if ever you happen to take a trip along the river Loire, make sure Meung-su-Loire is a place to make a stop (It's also a place with a medieval castle where François Villon, an iconic French poet of the 15th century is said to have spend some time in the vaults).

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    There is one of the tallest, most beautiful Acer palmatum I've seen in my region , it must be at least 12 metres tall. From different sides :

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    (continued) There were smaller ones, a couple of 'Buttrefly' in a so-si condition, one that was labelled 'Lutescens', a Shirasawanum vitifolium, another shirasawanum, and quite a few "dissecum atropurpureum" that were not labelled.

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    There was also a 'Seiryu' about 3 metres tall, but I couldn't take a good picture of the whole tree.

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    AlainK Renowned Contributor Forums Moderator Maple Society 10 Years

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    Today, I visited the "Arboretum des Prés de Culans"... again. Resonably hot (26°, and cloudy)

    Many flowers (Astilbe in particular) added to the scenery. Lots of dragonflies, ladybirds, butterflies and various bumblebees, but they were hard to photograph.

    Next time I go will be in Autumn, for the colours.

    A few maples that had a tag. There were others in poor condition, like some 'Butterfly', some of them with many reverted branches - I wish I had taken my pruners with me!

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    A couple of other pics :

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    My friend panicked when she saw that on the path :

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    ... but it was just a "slow worm", in French "un orvet". The other common name is "serpent de verre" (glass snake), for if you take it by the end of the tail, it breaks free, litterally.
     
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    PS : I concentrated on the maples, but they are supposed to have 500 species of Ilex (boxwood) and a wide collection of hostas, hemerocalles, etc. They also have conifers, among them several cultivars of Cryptomeria, etc.

    So if you ever happen to travel around, it's really worth spending an hour or more there.

    PPS : and if you are around, do pop in: I always need hands to try and tend my garden, huh huh...
     
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    One I forgot to take a picture of the tag, but I'm pretty sure it's Acer tegmentosum :

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    It does seem like a very nice place. Just hotting up a bit here, 24C! Seems warm to us, but actually only 77F, heh. We should be in the low 30s in a few days, it's really dry, but good for bringing in hay.

    I think the maple in the last post is probably closer to A. pensylvanicum, tegmentosum usually is distinctly 5-lobed.

    Acer palmatun [sic], forsooth! That's a typo someone will probably pick up on, and repeat, haha.
     
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    Hi Emery,
    I'm almost 100% sure there were no trees labelled "pensylvanicum", and I remembered I told my friend I had a couple of seedlings of the same species. But perhaps it was mislabelled (?)
     
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    Could be. Or it could well be a hybrid, so many of the section are, in arboreta and elsewhere; you have do be really careful about the seed source to have any hope of getting the real thing. A. tegmentosum gets its epithet "the hidden maple" because the new shoots are covered with a glaucous waxy bloom, (hidden twigs, as it were), which is generally persistent although you can rub it off too. But I can't count the number of other snakebarks, so called pensylvanicum, rufinerve, morifolium, etc., that all show the same bloom, indicating hybrid origin.

    In my experience, as I said, tegmentosum is very distinctly 5-lobed, with leaves about as wide as long. But as we all know, leaf shape can be variable plant to plant.
     
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    Imagine how I can identify my own trees, most of the time the tags are gone, and they're all from seeds (except the "J. maples" I bought).
     

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