I've grown lilies for years and I want to know how you guys in the Pacific Northwest can get your Martagon types to live? What's your secret? Here we kill them off by over watering them and watch them rot out on us, even grown in a coarse sand. It seems no matter what I do I can't get Turk's Cap lilies to see the third year no matter what I do for them. Give me an Asiatic hybrid and I can grow it, and Aurelian hybrid, no problem, Oriental hybrids, no real problems there either but any Martagon type other than a Tiger Lily and I am out of my league. Jim