Is this a tree of some sort?

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  1. hunt3rshadow

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    I've recently been weeding my herb garden when I noticed this plant growing. So I pulled it out along with its roots. But it turns out that the roots grew from some sort of "bulb" or a "core". I wasn't sure what it was so I planted it back.
     

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    chimera Well-Known Member 10 Years

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    A young elderberry ,Sambucus ?
     
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    Tyrlych Rising Contributor 10 Years

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    Ailanthus as for me.
     
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    Well I doubt its a sambucus...cuz I live in Canada. It might be a Ailanthus? Can anyone confirm this. Im not any good with identifying plants
     
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    Rub the leaf, Ailanthus has unpleasant smell, strong enough to note it.
     
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    Silver surfer Generous Contributor 10 Years

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    If you have a close look at one of the leaves, if it is Ailanthus altissima , common name Tree of Heaven, it will have a small pimple thing on the edge. This is a gland. Hope this helps. See.....
     

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    chimera Well-Known Member 10 Years

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    Is there any neighbouring shrub or tree from which it could be a sucker ? Interesting, the gland Luddite.
     
  8. Michael F

    Michael F Paragon of Plants Forums Moderator 10 Years

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    Alternate leaves, so not Sambucus.

    Finely serrated leaf margin, downy leaf stem, and no gland, so not Ailanthus.

    My best guess is a seedling Black Walnut Juglans nigra, but don't want to rule out a sumac Rhus as a possibility.
     
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    chimera Well-Known Member 10 Years

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    Thanks Michael, was wondering about sumac as a possibility, maybe suckering from a neighbours plant. Decaisnea sp. comes to mind , but maybe not enough leaflets.
     
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    It sure looks like a Wisteria to me.

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    I thought the leaves looked to be opposite.....?
     
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    chimera Well-Known Member 10 Years

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    Hermit, The leaf is considered pinnate, so alternates on this plant, i should have paid attention to this. The leaflets are opposite. Here is a better explanation http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lanceolate. All interesting.
     
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    Thank you so much. Your comment and the link cleared up an area of confusion for me --- as I stumble along.
     
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    By the way, Sambucus do "live" in Canada (native species, garden varieties).
     
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    Yes but I doubt its in my region. So what do you think would be the closest resemblance.
    I know its not Ailanthus, Hmm well there are no neighbours that actually have trees... But on the other side is a warehouse where wild plants and trees grow. I dont know really. I don't know if I should pull it out or not. Wait... O it might as well be a black walnut. Cuz you the the "bulb" I was talking about has the weird shape of an peach pit or maybe even an walnut
     
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    Err hum!...it's Wisteria sinensis of some variety.

    Probably a sucker from below the graft, if it came from a neighbours garden. It will probably be a very vigorous vine, but may not flower at all, or very freely if this is the case.

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    Are you sure about it??? Cuz the plant is seems to have grown from some sort of "bulb". Its not from a neighbours garden or at least I dont think so because I can uproot it easily. Is there anyway I can confirm this?
     
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    Sure? Well - in my mind yes.
    I ripped a piece off my Wisteria & stuck in the ground....

    Not worth arguing about. let the little blighter grow & report back.

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    Michael F Paragon of Plants Forums Moderator 10 Years

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    Not Wisteria, that has leaves with a wavy margin, but not a serrated margin.
     

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