British Columbia: Is these Ramsons’ seedlings?

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  1. JadeC

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    I grow Ramsons seeds two years ago.
    They never show up until now.
    Last winter, I put some lily seeds on the pot, now I am confused who are they.
    If someone know what are they?

    Thanks in advance.

    Jade
     
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    Pieter Active Member 10 Years

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    Soon as I saw the picture I said to myself "those are lily seedlings"... and once the second leaf starts to grow you can pull one of them and confirm a bulblet is indeed at the bottom of the petioles...
     
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    Thanks Peter,
    There are some more pot has the same seedlings.
    I’ll check it when they grow bigger.
     
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    vitog Rising Contributor 10 Years

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    Those seedlings also look a lot like Ramsons (Allium ursinum). I planted a single bulb three years ago and planted seeds in pots last fall and early spring this year. None of the seeds sprouted, but I did find 3 seedlings near the base of the original plant, which is now a cluster of about a dozen. The seedlings look exactly like the ones in the photo. Perhaps my seedlings are from seeds produced 2 years ago or the seeds need to be planted as soon as they are ripe.

    Since Ramsons also form bulbs, that characteristic won't distinguish them from lily seedlings. I haven't seen the bulbs on my plants because I started with a potted plant; however, after looking at photos in Google Images, I think that you will be able to tell them apart by the elongated shape of the Ramsons bulbs versus the more rounded lily bulbs.
     
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    Pieter Active Member 10 Years

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    Vito, I didn't realize that, learn something new every day, even at my age!
     
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    Eric La Fountaine Contributor Forums Moderator 10 Years

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    You can probably tell them apart by smell even at this early age.
     
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    Your answer makes my so happy!
    I couldn’t wait to see them grow up and update here.
    Thanks !


    I am going to wait for them.

    I’ll update when they bigger
     
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  8. Michael F

    Michael F Paragon of Plants Forums Moderator 10 Years

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    Not sure why you want this - here, where it is native, it is abundant, and very aggressive; I'd think in Vancouver's similar climate, it is highly likely to be a damaging invasive weed.
     
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    vitog Rising Contributor 10 Years

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    I suspect that, if it did proliferate here, it would become a popular "wild" food, since it is very similar to A. tricoccum, which is so popular that it is now a protected species in Quebec and a plant of special concern is several US states. Actually, I'm not sure that JadeC's seedlings are A. ursinum, since A. tricoccum is also commonly called Ramson. I planted A. ursinum to be used as a tasty vegetable that will grow in shady locations that are not suitable for any other vegetables.
     
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    It’s vagetable.
    Delicious one.
    Just like vitog said, in shady place :)
     
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    I tried to germinate A. tricoccum, failed.
    More than $29 cad seeds.......
    A. ursinum, tried three times,
    I hope this time is okay.
     
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    Yes, they are Ramsons.

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    They are awaking
     

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    vitog Rising Contributor 10 Years

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    Last year, I planted the seeds as soon as they were ripe, and they are now sprouting. So, late June seems to be the right time to sow Bear Garlic. I planted some seeds in a small pot and scattered the rest near the existing clump; both sowings are sprouting well. New shoots from bulbs that were transplanted in October are also showing up now. Four years after planting a single bulb, I now have all of the plants that I will ever need and will be able to harvest some of them as soon as they are large enough. I'm hoping that they will be a useful early substitute for regular garlic.
     
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    Hi Virgo,

    Thank for sharing your experience.
    That’s really helpful.



     
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    After five years,
    I finally have some of Ramsons.
    It’s seems they are doing well in Vancouver.
    In this special period, stay home with my plants makes me feel comfortable.
     

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    I am looking for Allium ursinum bulbs. I have seed but not much luck in germinating and would love to get a jump start. Anyone here willing to share ? Thank you
     
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    vitog Rising Contributor 10 Years

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    Seed planted this spring should germinate next spring. It's a bit late to plant my bulbs for this year, because the plants are already large enough to harvest here, in Burnaby. If you still want some bulbs later this spring and will be visiting the Vancouver area, let me know by personal message (called "Start a new conversation" in the upper right corner of the page).
     
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