Inula or Doronicum?

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  1. lettuce

    lettuce Active Member

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    Frustrated:)... Checked all the literature that I got, but nothing fits.
    Inula britannica is my guess. As far as Doronicum is concerned, it just reminds me of one, nothing else. Or could it be a third genus that I overlooked?

    Here, I've made some quality (I suppose) photos if that helps!

    Thanks!
     

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  2. Vdunne1952

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    I would certainly go for Doronicum.
     
  3. Andrey Zharkikh

    Andrey Zharkikh Well-Known Member 10 Years

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    Split between Inula and Doronicum (from efloras):
    - Phyllaries in (2–)3–7+ series, unequal to subequal (distinct, calyculi 0); pappi of (± coarse) barbellate bristles ==> Inula
    - Phyllaries in 1–2 series, equal to subequal (sometimes coherent, often subtended by calyculi); pappi of (fine) smooth or barbellulate bristles ==> Doronicum

    Quite overlapping features! What "calyculi" are?
     
  4. Lila Pereszke

    Lila Pereszke Well-Known Member 10 Years

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    Hi Lettuce! :)
    Hm... unfortunately I don't know well the croatian flora, but are there any other native Doronicum (or Inula) sp. which is not listed in the Iconographia (or in my brand new Ilustrirari billinar :)))?
    Because between these species I can't find a native Doronicum sp. with similar leaves... so maybe it is really an Inula...
    (P.S.: Can I use your pics in other forums?)
     
  5. Ron B

    Ron B Paragon of Plants 10 Years

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    Of the species I have seen myself it is much more like an Inula in general appearance.
     
  6. lettuce

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    only 4 Doronicum species in cro.flora. austriacum, hungaricum, columnae and orientale. Many Inula, though.

    It's really puzzling... the leaves of my plant dont seem to fit in any of Doronicum species noted above. And among other things, according to Flora Europaea, all have glandular peduncles.
    Link: http://books.google.com/books?id=QX...oronicum+austriacum&cd=1#v=onepage&q=&f=false

    Inula britannica photos on the net give only some resemblance to my plant; usually many flower heads, mine 1-2.

    If it helps with identification;) Sure.
     
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    Lila Pereszke Well-Known Member 10 Years

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    uh uh, I so sincerely hope it will help!!!! :)
     
  9. Lila Pereszke

    Lila Pereszke Well-Known Member 10 Years

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    Well, after some discusssion our last conclusion is also Inula britannica! :)
     
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    thanks... I thought so, although I believe it is an unusual specimen. :)
     
  11. Vdunne1952

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    This is the way a good forum should work. Good work, folks.
     

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