In the pine woods of PA

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  1. Hermit

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    These plants are about 10 inches in height and all were growing in thick beds of pine needles.
     

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    Silver surfer Generous Contributor 10 Years

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    Looks very like Epipactis helleborine. Hope this helps.
     
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    At first I thought "not," --- based on the Connecticut Botanical presentation/description of Epipactis helleborine at up to 3 feet in height and having lavender tint flowers of ¾-inch across. http://ct-botanical-society.org/galleries/epipactishell.html

    But after reading your response I did additional research that seems to confirm this to be Epipactis helleborine.

    Thank you.
     
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    Ron B Paragon of Plants 10 Years

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    It's not in bloom yet. Those are the buds, which already can be seen to be those of an orchid.
     
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    I was unable to get back to look for blooms on those plants yesterday but did manage to get to the woods this morning -- anxious to see those blooms!

    Each and every one of them was withered and had only brown stringy remnants where there should be blooms. What a disappointment!
     
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    Hermit,...How very disappointing .Something for you to look out for next year.
     
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    Michael F Paragon of Plants Forums Moderator 10 Years

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    Sounds like someone had sprayed them with herbicides, or maybe a grass fire (did the pine needles look burnt?). There's no way they'd have gone from still in bud, to finished, in just 2 days.

    Orchids are generally very sensitive to herbicides and only survive in areas with no herbicide input.
     
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    No spray or interference. They are in my woods and very remote and hard to access.
    I'll be going back down there to set up a trail camera, (trying to get some bear pictures), while there I'll snap a few pictures.
     
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    Michael F Paragon of Plants Forums Moderator 10 Years

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    Very strange!

    Does anyone know of any virulent orchid diseases?
     
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    Michael, I looked around for a considerable time and only located about 11 of these plants and it appears that all of them are affected with some malady. No other plants in the area show any signs of this affliction. I'll try to post pics demonstrating what I observed:

    The first 4 show varying degrees of wilt-rot or whatever. Note that some have signs of problems on the leaves also.
    The 5th photo shows other plants in the same immediate area --- to the right-side/middle of that frame is another of the "affected" plants.
     

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    The third and fourth pics, it looks like there might be fungal spores appearing on the top of the stem, so perhaps a fungal disease of some sort.
     
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    How sad to see them all affected. Michael is quite right, in that normally the flowers couldn't open and die in 2 days. Normally they start to open at the bottom and work their way up. Think you can rule out aphids, your pictures are so clear, you would see them when you zoom in. So it must be down to fungal /viral. They look so sick they probably won't reappear next year.
     
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    Thank you.
    I would very much have liked to see these cycle through full bloom, but I guess it is not to be.
     

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